Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
Was it Giggs or Ferguson that had the winning mentality?

Did OGS have it? did Gary Neville? Beckham? Keane?

Well of course, at least visually, Keane did but none of those Man Utd players have gone on to be great leaders of others - the best is Steve Bruce who manages in The Championship and no top Premier League club has even had a pint on him

It’s a complete lottery with the choices the FAW has/had with Osian the only one with any coaching pedigree at all (unless you count Joke City).

To me what got Coleman there (apart from Bale) was his passion about being Welsh - he is of course a Jack just like Hartson so did have a battle with Is bluebirds (one in particular ��).

I can’t imagine Giggs using Bale’s quote at the euros about all he needed was the dragon on his chest as motivation, whereas I can pictures Bellamy doing and saying exactly the same thing
They all had it. They were all winners. With the amount of trophies they won thats not just down the manager, the players have to have the same mentality. With all that they won, I dont see how anyone can argue any different.

Wether they go on to have a good management careers is another matter, complete seperate entity to wether they had the winning mentality. It all depends on the environment in which they are allowed to manage.

Since the Premier League and the money involved its fashionable to employ foreign coaches, especially in the top jobs. The premier league and Sky Sports have made players, British players in particular, very, very wealthy and they dont need to have the stress of a managers job. Look at the money Neville, Carragher and Henry are earning at Sky. Why swap that for grey hair and ageing in dog years? Jose Mourinho was the picture of health when he first arrived in this country, very handsome man (not in a gay way). 15 years later he looks half dead.

I applaud the likes of Giggs, Bellamy, Gerrard.etc for looking to go into management when they dont have to. Theyve all got TV work and it would be far easier for them to go down that route.