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Thing is it seems to me and many others that you aren’t asking questions but just looking for angles to niggle at the guy and anyone else who is prepared to forgive him for the rebrand.
As I have said numerous times, I can't really change people's opinions on me, and as I don't particularly care about anyone's opinion (especially anonymous people) I'm not really bothered how you interpret it. I could say you're wrong, you wouldn't believe me - so best leave it there.

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Anyway .. I would have though I was on ignore !
As far as I am aware, you've never been particularly derogatory and give as good as you get. You also tend to add to a debate, although it's through rose coloured glasses in the most part.


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As for Hammam, well, like many of the others he was a liar. I can’t particularly remember you asking questions of him.
On the old forum, I used to leave my e-mail address on there. I was once invited to meet Sam Hammam by Jason Turner because of some of my comments. The funny thing was, my sister got quite friendly with Jason and I knew about the wage thing a week before Black Friday. In fact, there was a lot of discontent in the club over Whalleygate.

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I can remember TLG doing it, then becoming less critical when Sam took him into the Inner Circle and started feeding him the bollox.

Since 62 was as well, as it was Sams bare face lies meant the truth didn’t come out until it was too late.
I remember TLG falling for the "debt is a sign of strength" crap that Hammam spouted when the debt was a mere £18m. I had met Hammam a couple of times, never really liked the fella - an absolute egotist. A bit like the current owner (in my opinion) - but the current bloke has deeper pockets and more intelligence. A potentially potent mix.

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IMHO it was too late we’ll before that as without a Trust and local businesses backing Bodley Sam was probably our best option even if we knew he was going to screw us over.

At first I was was prepared to give Sam the benefit of the doubt, which I still believe it the right way to do it.. anyone prepared to invest in the club should be given a chance, otherwise we cut down what are already limited options... and if I hadn’t it would have made bugger all difference.
Of course, give the new owners the benefit of the doubt by all means. But, Cardiff fans have collectively been taken in by people like Rick Wright (although he spelled out his exact commitments at the start), and Sam Hammam. I would have thought that Cardiff fans would have collectively become more cautious with experience.

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That line about ‘prostitution ‘. Get a grip.
‘Self respect ‘ -just look at your post history for the past few years ��
Don't take me so seriously - I don't.