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you seem to take pleasure in assuming people are stupid or don't understand mainly because they don't agree with your point of view. I already told you I don't give a toos, and you consinually going on about "1 benefit" won't change anybody's mind. you may as well give up.
You keep posting things that aren’t true though, if we are discussing it and you’re presenting facts that are incorrect am I not allowed to point them out.
I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind, I don’t care about changing your mind. I’m just happy to keep pointing out the congnitive dissonance of the people who are desperate for something to happen despite not being able to present one argument in its favour that isn’t false.
I’m not assuming you’re stupid at all. I don’t think anyone who voted either way is stupid. I think a lot of people were taken in by very good propaganda and it shows as the same propaganda is being brought up in here. There’s no shame in that though, I’ve been taken in by propaganda many times as have the majority of human beings throughout history.
It is law. Article 50 was enshrined in law when parliament voted for it. There will need to be another act of parliament to change the law.
That means several stages in the house of commons, committee stages and so on, plus I think 2 sessions in the lords. so they better get a move on.
I'm not stating anything thast is incorrect, most of what I say is just my opinion, no one is going to change their vote on what I say, nor on what you say.
Now I agree with Mr Morgan, this thread is going nowhere but should go to the political forum where it can be debated for ever without result just the same as parliament is doing.
Have a lovely weekend.
Opinions can be wrong and this is wrong.If they force us to go begging to cancel the Article 50 the EU will trample all over us for years to come
Revoking article 50 is up to the U.K. and the U.K. alone because our parliament is sovereign.
The EU wouldn’t be able to trample over us because our country would have the same rights as every other country and each country has the same power. Hence why there would never be an EU army and why Turkey will never be a member state of the EU.
The UK parliament is the only organisation that CAN change article 50, or at least revoke it.
No deal is a natural consequence of reaching 29 Mar without a deal. On that date we automatically leave the EU whether we want to or not, and whether the EU want us to or not - - - - unless an act of parliament is passed to revoke article 50.
A new act of parliament is the only thing that can prevent it. If it is stopped any other way it will be illegal as far as I iunderstand it.
all these people voting for this petition is all very well and it looks impressive because naturally only people who agree with it vote.
All the people who want to leaver cannot vote to cancel out one of the stay votes so no matter how many people vote on the petition it means absolutely nowt.
All the people not voting are the people who in a referendum should be those who wish to ,maintain the status quo. They should have been counted as remain in the referendum but weren't because Blair changed the rules to suit himself and Cameron kept them.
I’ve not mentioned violence. You’re the one throwing the insults around on here. You’ve not proven me or anybody else “wrong”.
It’s just opinions. My point, was about the silent majority from any country, in any given era, just standing back and letting things happen.
You are just angry because you want to remain in Europe, and the vote has gone against that.
It’s not the Tories who voted to leave, it was the general public.
I’m angry because a country that’s suffering under austerity, that only had a financial crisis less than 10 years ago, that has its highest ever level of employment poverty, children living in starvation conditions and food bank usage is heading towards an even worse economy because of a vote that was only called because of Tory party infighting and to steal the UKIP vote.
It won’t affect me, I’ve got a great job and dual citizenship. It’s the working class yet again that will suffer. And not one person here who’s for it has even presented a reason why.
The word democracy crops up frequently, was the 2016 referendum democratic though?
I voted to leave, because i don’t believe there is any need for a European Union. It’s just another huge conglomerate that was solely devised, imo, as another “jobs for the boys” set up.
My decision had nothing to do with any immigration policy, which gets aimed at leave voters regularly.
We didn’t get the chance to vote on the decision to join the original “common market”, we were just hoodwinked in in the early 70’s with the premise of inner circle trade deals.
Since then it has slowly grown arms and legs, collecting new member countries who are all up to their eyes in debt, with no foreseeable way of paying any of it off.
I’m a firm believer that countries should stand on their own 2 feet, and do their best to grow their own economy, and spread the wealth amongst all its citizens. ( a pipe dream really) but that’s how it should be.
I feel the EU is a corrupt organisation. That fact that it’s proving so difficult to leave, proves that point. If a member country like the UK voted to leave, then it should be a simple process, with no veiled threats and no hidden agendas. No “deals” should be needed.
That’s just my thoughts and reasons as to why I voted to leave. Many on here will disagree and pick holes in my opinions, but we are all different and all have a different outlook on things.
No. I am happy to be part of the UK. Always have been. Once we are out of Europe, then our voting and energy should be concentrating on electing a government that treats all parts of the UK fairer. Getting handouts from Europe is no reason to stay. It’s quite pathetic really. There is enough wealth in the UK to improve conditions in parts of Wales, the north east, and other parts of the UK that have been ignored for yrs.
If Wales had a vote for independence and it came back a yes. I would support that to. That’s what democracy is all about.
It’s proving so difficult to leave because of the U.K. though. It’s proving difficult to leave because it’s protecting its member states.
The wealth that’s in the U.K. is improved by being in the eu. Our wealth will be sufficiently reduced through leaving.
No deals are needed unless we want to continue to trade internationally. The deals are needed because of international trade and because of the Irish border. If we want to generate wealth to improve this country international trade is required.
I respect your reason for voting and I agree it can be a corrupt organisation but so can the British government. My opinion is the we are better off improving the eu from within than being out and making the poorer in our country poorer.