Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
I'm just following your own logic.

You said that "it's a fundamental right to own property" - slaves were once property - you'd have been against the abolition of slavery since it's taking away your fundamental right to own property.

I'm slightly worried that you didn't tell me that I'm wrong.

Slaves aren't property now are they ?
I'm not sure how you can compare holding a human being captive with owning a gun.
I own guns and in the past I've handled and used very heavy duty weaponry but I've never committed a crime with them or been irresponsible with them. The guns don't harm anyone unless used to do so by a human being, and that is who is responsible if anyone is harmed.

As far as what anyone might have said about slavery at the time when it was questioned, none of us can say if we're truthful.
It might seem obvious to us now that it's wrong, but you can't apply modern thinking to a different age, or vice versa.

Remember, being pro slavery was the default position of the establishment at the time and that the idea of abolishen was a controversial one at first. If you want me to guess, I'd expect that the people here who get angry about individualists or people questioning the State would be throwing similar stones at abolishenists as they do now at " climate change deniers ".