Apologies to life on mars, my reply should have been to RonnieBird.
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Apologies to life on mars, my reply should have been to RonnieBird.
Whyte looking inexperienced at this level isn't a problem for me at the moment considering the level he has played at. playing in the Irish league and at League 1 level has probably allowed him to get away with certain aspects of the game that wont show up at that level. The Championship is obviously different.
The question for me is will he develop and become a better more rounded and intelligent player under Warnock and his coaching staff? Surely that's what they would have had in mind when they signed him. I'm don't think that Warnock makes players better given our playing style, lets face it, it's as basic as digging holes with your hands. Our wingers never have a second option, they recieve the ball and are told to run at the fullback and deliver a cross without any support around them if they do reach a dead end, it's clueless stuff. I don't know whether Whyte is a good player or not although one thing i am convinced about is that he wont become a better player with Warnock as his manager.
Warnock just wants the fullbacks to man mark. I feel a bit sorry for our wingers at times because they don't have any options, even when they get the chance to put a cross in there is a lack of runners so they have to put the cross into an area as oppossed to a player making a late run. I'm not saying that any of them are great, although i'm not sure that they're given much of a chance at times. I'm struggling to watch us at the moment, it's poor. The measure for me is Tomlin as our great hope. Let's face it, he's finished and even if he wasn't he's not enough of a player who can dictate play or be the difference between winning and losing. Warnock has been horrendous with the money he has had.
So how many of these "great crosses" have been good enough to lead to even an effort on goal from City because I can't remember any. What I have seen from Whyte on the rare occasions when he has been in a position where he could put over a quality cross is hurried, misdirected and/or overhit efforts that deliver the ball back to the opposition - it's as if he gets over excited when he has a chance to make an impact. I feel sorry for him in lots of ways because he must be better than what he has shown for us so far and I can't help thinking he may be trying too hard.
Agree. He got three good crosses in against Fulham in the space of a couple of minutes, just before half time and we nearly scored from two of them. People see what they want to see and the most vociferous against him dont even go to games, they listen on the radio and watch on tv and think that they are experts.
I hope Gavin Whyte is given more time and develops into a quality player at this level - as many pundits who have watched him at Oxford have predicted - but at the moment his contributions to play are disappointing. Effort but little end product.
That becomes more obvious when you see Kadeem Harris doing the business for Wednesday - and in my mind we have (at least for now) traded down. Harris was unlucky and if he hadn't had that bad injury 2 years ago just when he'd got a run of games he may have become an integral part of the team. Instead he ended up back on the far fringes.
But he always had a bit of magic and was the second best crosser of the ball amongst the wingers in recent years (after Junior). His inch perfect cross for Fletcher's goal at Huddersfield today was typical of him. If Gavin Whyte can start to provide service like that we may have a player. I hope we do.
Yes, just because I've been critical of him, it doesn't mean I don't want him to succeed here and I'm hopeful he will - I was encouraged by what Oxford fans had to say about him, but I've been disappointed up to now and, based on what we've seen so far, it can only be his defensive contributions that are keeping him in the side.
My disappointment is that there aren't these threads asking what Tomlin has done, overall it's very little in all his time here, or what Flint brings to the table, not enough to be worth £6million, but Whyte is judged after each game.
Told you
Excellent yesterday, but still too early to judge.
Although football fans in general do like to write players off after their first 20 minutes - not just ours.
Like a few players he’s still finding his feet.
What I like about him is that even though it’s not really happened for him going forward ( although he looked a threat all game today) is that he does his defensive job very well.
Murphy is a much more potent attacking force at the moment imho due to his pace and skill, but when this doesn’t work for him he ( mostly) doesn’t have a fall back in his defensive work.
Saying that he tried hard today given he was unwell