Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
IMO the two main factors for Labour's electoral defeat were:

1. The classical Labour-supporting "working class man/woman" as defined in the 1900's no longer exists.
2. The "centre ground" has been taken by the Tories so Labour has no where to go.
Think your right and that is a worry as effective opposition makes effective government, just wish Labour could wake up and smell the roses.