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What happened to this thread?
God knows.
Organ Morgan has had some, though it's hard to say that is undeserved!
Typical of the nanny state.
Lewis Goodall: https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...22087452397568Deborah Birx, White House Covid task force just openly pitied UK ventilator capacity: Were worried about groups all around the globe...they have 8000 ventilators in the UK. If you translate that to the US that would be equivalent to us having 40000 ventilators. We have 5x that
To recap, special relationship in an...unusual place: Trump spent five minutes lamenting what he said was Britains herd immunity strategy and one of his principal scientific advisers openly lamented our lack of ventilators.
Our herd immunity strategy was ridiculous but trump was calling this a hoax a month ago and a simple flu 2 weeks ago so not sure he's the right person to pass judgement.
I think the existence or God is a relevant side debate to have within a thread about a pandemic that's causing thousands of deaths per day. It'll get back on track
To bring the thread back on track:
Do we think we should be allowed to go about our daily lives as normal as it's only people who are already a bit ill who are dying in their hundreds per week?
Should we ignore that this would overwhelm the health service until even non corona suffers are dying (they were already ill anyway!)
Should we ignore the fact that a non insignificant percent of people get irrepariable lung damage from coronavirus?
Speaking to a colleague in Denmark this morning they are planning a gradual easing of restrictions after Easter.
Denmark went in to lockdown 3 weeks ago before any deaths from the disease and there have since been 90 deaths in the country overall. These have stabilised to around 10 per day over the last week or so.
It's ok though, it's not really a virus.
Piers Corbyn has claimed that a Telecoms executive stated covid-19 is in fact the bodies natural reaction to stresses caused by 5G - both Wuhan AND the major cruise ship affected have... 5G.
Still crazy that we didn't do the same.
Yet Imperial College London report claimed we got out timings right.
IMO, if lockdown had been ordered day 1, there would have been mass protests and disobedience. Instead it's been recommended to stay home - as people have then abused it, it's been "locked down". I suspect most Brits will accept that given the "nice" approach being abused. Some will always disobey.
That does make sense. But surely if the government had acted a month earlier we may not have needed such tight restrictions?
It isn't just a british problem, a lot of european countries also didn't think it was that much of an issue until people started dying.
I suspect that's more due to the information coming through. WHO back in Jan believed couldn't be transmitted person to person and had a phone call with Lady Gaga...
Germany have had a large rise in deaths. Someone speculated that their testing may well have focused on the young rather than general population.
I still haven't seen this anywhere, do you have a link? I honestly cannot ever remember hearing that once.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...061554884.html
There's a timeline and it says the WHO were alerted in December/January to a virus. I'm not saying that's spot on but I hadn't heard any different.
Who is Piers Corbyn? Sounds like someone made up the name by chucking two darts at Twitter.
Jan 14th, WHO tweeted "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,".
Looking for the tweet now, presume they haven't deleted it.
If so, it's damning for them taking Chinese authorities at their word with no independent checking.
https://twitter.com/who/status/12170...761152?lang=en
Yep you're right, it's a shame the Chinese government won't get half the grief they deserve for this.
Piers is the cleverer of the two brothers.
That's the problem, it imo would have caused massive social disorder and disobediance to have had any semblance of lockdown back in Jan based upon that WHO information, which is what governments would have had to go on.
Even looking at February, people were still trying to get that meaningful information about the transmission and nature of the virus.
Denmark went into lockdown on 11th March. There had only been 8 more deaths in the UK at that time, with the first death in the UK just 5 days prior. There have now (as of yesterday) been 1700 more deaths in the UK than Denmark with the difference currently growing by hundreds each day. Denmark is now considering reopening its economy gradually after Easter.
Makes you wonder how much of an impact applying restictions here just a couple of weeks earlier would have made.
Makes you wonder how bad it could have been.The number of people who have died from coronavirus in the UK has risen by 563 to 2,353 in total, the Department for Health and Social Care has said.
The latest figures mark the biggest day on day increase in the country since the pandemic began.
The Department for Health confirmed this afternoon that 29,474 people have tested positive for coronavirus within the UK - an increase of 4,324 from yesterday. The Department has also clarified that UK's testing capacity is currently 12,799 tests per day.
I think that it was generally expected that this was going to be a bad week in terms of deaths and new cases and, after a few days when it looked like things may be peaking, the last two have been more in line with expectations, Nevertheless, I think I'm right in saying that in places like Italy and Spain the new cases rate was doubling every two or three days at the same sort of stage as we are and that's certainly not happening here lately.
Denmark's population is 5.8m.
UK, at around 66m has higher fatality count than a far, far smaller nation shocker.
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