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  1. #26

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    March 12 Areta tests positive for covid 19.
    Premier league and EFL games called off weekend 14/15/16 March.How many lives did that save.
    27 march Boris Johnson said he was shaking hands with corona virus patients just weeks before he tested positive for Covid-19. The prime minister confirmed he had entered self-isolation on Friday 27 March. Early that month, he insisted that people would be pleased to know' that the virus would not stop him greeting hospital patients with a handshake.
    23 March UK lock down starts probably 2 weeks to late.
    I will never change my opinion that Johnson is a clown.

  2. #27

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    60,70 or 80 thousand deaths should be being reported, even if it’s not true, perhaps the death toll should be exaggerated to hit home how serious this is to people who think it’s ok to congregate down The Docks eating ice cream on a warm Sunday. Complacency is creeping in and nothing is being done about it, seems as though some people do need to be rudely awakened.

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    That's what the red tops will be saying in the morning.
    No mention of the shameful level of deaths in the UK. Over 40000 so far.
    " Do you want to come and see some puppies " Corbyn would have done better? Not a chance he couldn't run his own party nevermind a country

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    " Do you want to come and see some puppies " Corbyn would have done better? Not a chance he couldn't run his own party nevermind a country
    That's irrelevant Corbyn is not prime minister.
    Johnson is a self serving clown whose actions may have caused thousands more deaths than was necessary.

  5. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    That's what the red tops will be saying in the morning.
    No mention of the shameful level of deaths in the UK. Over 40000 so far.
    Wonder what the death rate figures would have been with Corbyn and Abbott at the helm? She'd have still been looking for Loch Down up in Scotland.

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    " Do you want to come and see some puppies " Corbyn would have done better? Not a chance he couldn't run his own party nevermind a country
    1000s,dead. Lack of PPE. A, phoney lockdown weeks to late and you reckon no one else could have done a better job..
    The Government or lack of one had one thing on there minds..
    Brexit means Brexit

  7. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    " Do you want to come and see some puppies " Corbyn would have done better? Not a chance he couldn't run his own party nevermind a country
    How is that relevant here? nothing but whataboutism because you "support" the tories

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Wonder what the death rate figures would have been with Corbyn and Abbott at the helm? She'd have still been looking for Loch Down up in Scotland.
    And Raab would still be wondering if Calais was in France.

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    1000s,dead. Lack of PPE. A, phoney lockdown weeks to late and you reckon no one else could have done a better job..
    The Government or lack of one had one thing on there minds..
    Brexit means Brexit
    So you believe any other government would have led to less deaths?

    Easy belief when you know full well you're unable to prove that.

  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Wonder what the death rate figures would have been with Corbyn and Abbott at the helm?
    Why?

  11. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    So you believe any other government would have led to less* deaths?

    Easy belief when you know full well you're unable to prove that.
    *fewer

    I don't believe anyone could have done any worse.

  12. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    *fewer

    I don't believe anyone could have done any worse.
    Again, that's a belief and you're entitled to it.
    Absolutely no way you can objectively prove it, of course.

  13. #38

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    I've been thinking about that question for a while.
    My initial thought was that a labour government, especially a left one would have been more likely to have acted earlier.
    Tories hate the government doing anything - ever. They want the free market and choice to solve all of our problems, so I think this was partly responsible for the delay in action at the start of this crisis.
    Labour wouldn't have had this - but you can be confident that they would have had whatever action they produced very severely criticized in the media in a way that the Tories have mostly been insulated from thus far, which could itself have affected their choices, or how well the public would have stuck to the advice.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    " Do you want to come and see some puppies " Corbyn would have done better? Not a chance he couldn't run his own party nevermind a country
    So you think corbyn looks like a sex offender ?

    That's a matter of opinion and I dont think he has any convictions

    But here are some facts , not opinions , about boris

    He lied about europe to get brexit through

    He said black people have watermelon smiles , an extremely offensive term used during the days of slavery in the united states

    He said gay men were bum boys

    Hes a grown man and uses racist homophobic language and he lies

    And all you can say in his defence is that at least he doesn't look like someone you compare to a sex offender ?

    You are mad as a box of frogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    So you believe any other government would have led to less deaths?

    Easy belief when you know full well you're unable to prove that.
    Other governments around the world have shown that with good leadership deaths could have been kept to a minimum and others have shown that things could be worse but not much more worse.

  16. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Why?
    Well you’re saying there would have been fewer deaths under a different government, or even a different leader. How do you know that . The simple answer is, you don't. Just like the rest of us..

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    The following chart is telling. Belgium lead the way because they assume almost all (94%) care home deaths are caused by Covid 19 after that only France "outperforms" the UK.

    https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1572472/

    So it's fair to say the UK approach hasn't been the most successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    One of the strange by products of all of this is the Times/Sunday Times/Financial Times have, seemingly, been designated as unfriendly when it comes to supporting the Government. It was being reported yesterday that the Sunday Times is not being allowed to ask questions at the daily Government briefings any more,
    Except on sundays

  19. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Wonder what the death rate figures would have been with Corbyn and Abbott at the helm? She'd have still been looking for Loch Down up in Scotland.
    Feck me, have you listened to some of the things Patel has said

  20. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninian opinian View Post
    Feck me, have you listened to some of the things Patel has said
    Shes a foaming mouth right wing nut case

    What's she been saying now ?

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Imagine if the winning candidate in the Tory leadership race was the one that everyone knows is an obscene liar, madly career orientated to the point where he'd trample over anyone to become PM and is notorious for not being a details man - if you want him to read it, make sure it's less than two sides.

    We don't have to imagine, because he won.
    Yep, no choice in a rubbish two party state. It’s shiiite

  22. #47

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    Who knows whether a different UK Government would have seen lower figures, shouldn't the relevant question be would another Government have been as indecisive during February and early March in their decision making and in terms of preparation for what was coming?

  23. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Well you’re saying there would have been fewer deaths under a different government, or even a different leader. How do you know that . The simple answer is, you don't. Just like the rest of us..

    .
    What about the countless examples of governments around the world handling it better?

    The government were told to close schools, restaurants and pubs in February and ignored it. How many people did that kill?

    It doesn’t matter if someone else would have done it better, even I’d they wouldn’t have that doesn’t mean this government are beyond criticism.

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by PontBlue View Post
    Other governments around the world have shown that with good leadership deaths could have been kept to a minimum and others have shown that things could be worse but not much more worse.
    No nation is identical.

    Can you name, for example, one nation in Europe with a city the size and density of London?

    People champion NZ - well, it's easier to contain and isolate there because population density is lower... christ, some regions you've miles to nearest neighbour.

  25. #50

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    What we do know is this Government's handling of it has been a total disaster.

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