Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
the UK had 2.5% of the war casualties. do you really think that if someone else was in charge the outcome of the war would have been different?

unfortunately we've had decades of propaganda in this country convincing us that Churchill saved the day.

I recently saw a couple of opinion polls that were held in France, one just after the war and another a couple of years ago. they asked who was most responsible for the allied powers winning the war, the options were UK, France, USA and Russia.
in the survey just after the war Russia were massively out in front, with like 75% or more of the responses.
whereas in the recent poll the USA and UK were the highest.
only goes to show what 70 odd years of Hollywood movies and other propaganda have done to influence the public's perception
There's so much about WW2 that isn't generally discussed - the UK's military 'strength' was smaller than Portugal in Sept. '39. Dunkirk was a disaster, not a miracle, when we left behind 75% of military hardware we had. We only 'fought' the Germans in Europe for the 1st time in 1944. Poland declared war on Germany. The USA screwed us for every penny because we never bothered to pay them for the arms we bought off them in WW1. France had a larger, stronger army and air force than Germany in 1939. We started the bombing of civilians when a German bomber missed his target of London docks and hit the East end of London We retaliated by bombing civilian areas in Berlin, and then the Germans hit us back. Large regions of Germany were never pro-nazi. Yes, we were genarally the good guys, the French were pathetic, and the German machine was pure evil, but there's a huge amount of history out there which isn't really told..