Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
That takes us to the conclusion that we might as well be the most sucessful predator we can during our brief period of consciousness.
If you start with this well meaning intent though, that's probably not a bad thing
Humanism wins every time

If there is a god and you try to live a good life , he will let you in to heaven

If he doesn't then he's not really a very nice bloke and best avoided