Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

[stan butler]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

which clubs DO compare well with Leicester though?
why not compare Tan with Blackburn, Swansea or Sunderland?

neither is we had a background in football prior to coming here afaik. so a lot comes down to the trust in the people they've hired.

on the radio yesterday Andy King was saying that a lot can be traced back to Nigel Pearson when they were in league one putting a lot of things in place behind the scenes, improving sports science, the youth setup and recruitment, which has been the foundation they've built upon.

take Neil Warnock for example, when he turned us from a relegation battle to promotion in 18 months Tan clearly would have thought "great I've finally got someone who knows what they're doing". but in reality we were putting nothing in place to maintain the longer term success of the club.
there was no youth progression, chaotic recruitment and promotion has left us in a weaker position.

Good post

[stan butler]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Bob Grogan

Fair comment but are there anymore?

[Hilts]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Im sure those short changed by Leicester will be delighted with their success.

Did they even get a points deduction when they pulled the admin card.?

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

I think most clubs would look at Leicester and think I wish our club was run like that.

No doubt a lot of clubs also wish they had a owner like Tan also. So many owners especially in the championship seems to promise the world and give nothing and them do a runner and leave worse off.

I guess that's the problem with football, the grass always seems to look greener.

[surge]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Well, Cardiff's recruitment structure has undergone something of an overhaul over the last 18 months, with a greater emphasis having been placed on driving up the value of the squad by recruiting more talented young players.

The man now tasked with doing that is Kevin Beadell, who Cardiff prised away from Arsenal's under-23s at the start of the season.

Beadell heads the club's recruitment operation now for the under-18s, under-23s and the first team. It is an impressive appointment and one which club insiders have been really pleased with in recent months.

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Since the summer, Cardiff have brought in nine players and only two - Kieffer Moore and Jonny Williams - have been over the age of 25.

Expect that to change slightly this summer, though, with McCarthy himself eager to put his own views forward. He certainly wants a little more experience within the squad, owing to the fact Junior Hoilett will leave and the contract situations of both Joe Bennett and Sol Bamba are up in the air.

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Meanwhile McCarthy, given his wealth of experience and contacts within the game, has a sizeable say on the targets who he likes based on his experiences of coming across them previously or his trusted network of confidants within the game, much like Neil Warnock would do as evidenced by some of his shrewd free transfers while in the Welsh capital.

That hybrid system, the club hope, will stand them in good stead this summer.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...rgets-20612793

Warnock leant on his vast network of former players and staff for recommendations on signing some of those above and that, historically, is how McCarthy works, too.

McCarthy, like Warnock, prefers to bring in players he knows or upon the recommendations of those he trusts. Rather than signing the player who looks good on paper or the fashionable choice, he brings in the right man to fit his system and, ultimately, his vision.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ities-20611310

Malky updated us massively after Dave Jones with regards to sports science and transfer identification and Neil Harris's work off the field is going to be remembered far more favourably than work on the field, but most of Tan's spending here has been wasted by short-termism which leaves us very little to show for it.

Transfer windows will need to be judged as a whole rather than on individual signings as it seems Mick is going to make some moves we don't like but, apart from false(?) claim that we prised Kevin Beadell away from Arsenal when other sites make it clear he was moved out before joining us, local press are making positive noises about future plans.

[stan butler]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

I think most clubs would look at Leicester and think I wish our club was run like that.

No doubt a lot of clubs also wish they had a owner like Tan also. So many owners especially in the championship seems to promise the world and give nothing and them do a runner and leave worse off.

I guess that's the problem with football, the grass always seems to look greener.

Fans forget how badly our club was run under Hammam . Ridders etc and although Tan is not the perfect owner but he's far better than those leaches.
I'd love Cardiff to be run like Leicester but they are more or less a one off.

[Ninian1962]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Im sure those short changed by Leicester will be delighted with their success.

Did they even get a points deduction when they pulled the admin card.?

They did get a major financial boost by dumping £millions of liabilities when they went into Administration and with no football authority penalties.

[Rjk]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Fans forget how badly our club was run under Hammam . Ridders etc and although Tan is not the perfect owner but he's far better than those leaches.
I'd love Cardiff to be run like Leicester but they are more or less a one off.

Ridsdale is a bit unfairly judged by many in my opinion.

he was always s bit of a figure of fun but I think he did an excellent job here.

he was never the owner, only a chairman, and had to deal with Sam Hammam for all of his time here.
he managed the club through some tricky periods with regards to debt / HMRC etc. Got the stadium built from the starting point of a Sam Hammam crayon drawing and found foreign investment to secure the long term future of the club (it should have done more than that)
he's a bit of an unsung hero in some ways

[Cyclops]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Seems to me that several posters have short and selective memories - not to mention their agendas.

How could we have forgotten this memorable example of Vincent becoming a veritable pillar of the local community -

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-wales-5138743

[Rjk]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Seems to me that several posters have short and selective memories - not to mention their agendas.

How could we have forgotten this memorable example of Vincent becoming a veritable pillar of the local community -

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-wales-5138743

didn't tan also give millions to local charities, here and at his other clubs?

[stan butler]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Ridsdale is a bit unfairly judged by many in my opinion.

he was always s bit of a figure of fun but I think he did an excellent job here.

he was never the owner, only a chairman, and had to deal with Sam Hammam for all of his time here.
he managed the club through some tricky periods with regards to debt / HMRC etc. Got the stadium built from the starting point of a Sam Hammam crayon drawing and found foreign investment to secure the long term future of the club (it should have done more than that)
he's a bit of an unsung hero in some ways

I was a touch unfair regarding Ridsdale he did very well in a lot of things here.. He seemed a decent fella to.

[dml1954]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

The only thing these guys have in common is that they're both from the far east. Vincent Tan doesn't love Cardiff City. He doesn't respect Wales, Cardiff, or its people. He doesn't understand what a football club is or what it means. He's just rich. And he hasn't/doesn't even use his wealth wisely. He's a ****ing clown.

This post just proves what I had thought all along. You sit hiding behind your keyboard on the other side of the Atlantic, thinking you are important, entitled to say what you like and the font of all knowledge about Cardiff City. Actually you are just a foul mouthed, insignificant, nobody who is probably not even a fan of the club. You are not the only one on this board unfortunately who does this but luckily the actual twenty odd thousand real fans who don't post on this board do appreciate what Tan, Dalman and Choo have done for the club and are very grateful.

[Rjk]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

I was a touch unfair regarding Ridsdale he did very well in a lot of things here.. He seemed a decent fella to.

come back Peter, all is forgiven

[Cleve van Leef]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Im sure those short changed by Leicester will be delighted with their success.

Did they even get a points deduction when they pulled the admin card.?

They didn’t and got away with it, but points deduction was soon brought in to avoid any Club doing the same.

[stan butler]

Re: Leicester City management compared to City and Vincent Tan

Seems to me that several posters have short and selective memories - not to mention their agendas.

How could we have forgotten this memorable example of Vincent becoming a veritable pillar of the local community -

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-wales-5138743

Usually the ones who are vocal against Tan are the ones who were in bed with a previous owner and were very quiet when he was doing us over.. Tan isn't the best we could have but he's far from the worse