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  • John Bercow defects to Labour.

    Can't see Conservative Central Office losing too much sleep over this really.

    Former Speaker joined the Conservatives aged 17 but says party has become reactionary and xenophobic under its current leadership

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    Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

    Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Can't see Conservative Central Office losing too much sleep over this really.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ack-on-johnson
    Unless he works his way up to become Labour leader.

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    • #3
      Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

      Originally posted by IanD View Post
      Unless he works his way up to become Labour leader.
      and pigs might fly

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      • #4
        Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

        Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
        and pigs might fly
        It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

        Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

        He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.

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          Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

          Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
          It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

          Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

          He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.
          just like Labour is a broad church, so is conservatism. Even traditionally, centrist Labour and centrist Tories weren't that far apart. It does amaze me that such people don't automatically align with the Lib Dems.

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          • #6
            Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

            Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
            and pigs might fly
            John Bercow is very meme popular in a positive sense.. If we're doing populism now, which seems to be the case, he'd be a hit.

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            • #7
              Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

              Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
              As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
              He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.

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              • #8
                Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

                Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                It’s interesting that a traditional Tory feels more comfortable with a party under Starmer than Johnson.

                Shows how far both parties have moved to the ‘right’?

                He’s not the only Conservative who has expressed their distrust of Johnson. Dominic Grieve give him pelters in the week about his dishonesty.
                Dominic Grieve would be a credit to any party.

                Bercow on the other hand.......

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                • #9
                  Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

                  All this proves is that Bercow was, after all, always trying to deliberately block Brexit and the will of the people (as was Dominic Grieve). The words two faced and hypocritical come to mind. Labour are welcome to him.

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                  • #10
                    Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

                    If only there was a forum for this politics stuff.

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                    • #11
                      Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

                      Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                      Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
                      As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
                      He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.
                      Bercow was a very right wing tory when he was younger.

                      He has made a long political journey.

                      He did a lot of good things as speaker but in the end I think the power went to his head.

                      I think Hoyle is a much better speaker

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                      • #12
                        Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

                        The Tories defected to UKIP a long time ago so don’t blame him.

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                        • #13
                          Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

                          Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                          Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
                          As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
                          He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.
                          "Never a traditional Tory" is a statement may who know his political past would disagree with I think.

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                          • #14
                            Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

                            Originally posted by xsnaggle View Post
                            Bercow was never a 'traditional ' tory. Labour and conservatives normally take turn about for speaker but when he stood for the post the Conservative party didn't want him, and he was only elected because the labour MPs voted for him.
                            As soon as he became speaker he became and independent having to resign from his original party and as is tradition, whilst he was speaker no one stood against him in any election.
                            He actually became a labour MP a week or so ago. Let's see how he does in the next election he stands in.
                            He isn’t an MP yet. He’s just joined the Labour Party

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                            • #15
                              Re: John Bercow defects to Labour.

                              Originally posted by Pearcey3 View Post
                              He isn’t an MP yet. He’s just joined the Labour Party
                              He won't be standing for election either, he's merely just joined the party.

                              Also, when he was elected speaker, he got 322 votes (June 22nd 2009). He was unanimously elected speaker in 2017.

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