Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
It's interesting to look back just over a year at the thread about Cummings' appearance in front of the media in which he tried to explain away his jaunt to Barnard's Castle and to how those posters who defend the current UK Government responded at the time;-

https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...minic+cummings

To be fair to someone like Vindec, he was very clear in his opinion that Cummings had to go and that was the impression I got from Elwood as well. There were some others who put their heads above the parapet to offer what seemed to me a somewhat half hearted defence of the man and then there were people like you who, presumably, to use a phrase that appeared in the thread, wanted the whole thing to "blow over".

Strange now then that you and one or two others are adamant that Cummings is a liar and always has been and yet you were unwilling to be so outspoken about him last year when Johnson, and many in his party, were insisting there was nothing wrong in the way he behaved.

Why should this be? Was your silence last year down to the fact that Cummings was on the inside of a Conservative Government then and so had to be protected accordingly?

Do you really believe that Cummings just made up everything he said in his testimony to that Committee of MPs back in May?

How about the farce yesterday, whereby the PM and Chancellor were exempt from isolation, then they weren't and then Johnson "explained" it away by claiming he had briefly considered () claiming an exemption because he was part of some scheme that was unheard of until yesterday, but thought better of it - that might have worked were it not for the fact that it had been announced he and Sunak were exempt hours earlier.

You're in no position to lecture those of us on the left about supporting Cummings. Based on what I've seen and read, people know what Cummings is, but look at his testimony in May and think, in this instance, there is a ring of truth to it. You're probably one of those Conservatives who trot out the line about people in the south Wales valleys voting for anything that wears a red rosette, but your actions, or, to be more exact, inaction over the past year marks you out as someone who does the same as long as long as the rosette is blue.
Thanks for acknowledging the fact that I said Cummings should have gone from the outset. I call things out as I see them but that can't be said for everyone.Leaving the Cummings issue aside, the points you make can in general just as easily be attributed to those who vote Labour as well as Conservative on the various threads that appear on these pages. As I see it the difference is that some people vote for political parties at elections based on their policies at the time; they do not always vote for a Party because that is the only way they have always voted. There is very little criticism of Starmer on these pages but after more than a year as Leader I still haven't the foggiest what he stands for but as a contributor on here I feel there is absolutely no point in making any points about his performance as I will only get shouted down. Life is too short. My guess is that others who don't follow the views of the majority on here feel the same.

I know it's hard to accept, but for many voters had two choices at the last election - Corbyn (potentially dangerous with a radical following) or the buffoon Johnson. Johnson came out on top as the least worst option but what I don't get is that left leaning contributors always seem to decry those who voted differently.

As far as I'm concerned I believe that Johnson will have to resign if this idiotic relaxation of the COVID restrictions results in hospitals getting swamped with COVID patients. That is not a view based on politics but is based on how I feel. I will happily criticise anyone, irrespective of political allegiance, if I happen to disagree with them.