Cultural Appropriation

[WJ99mobile]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-58408240

[Baloo]

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What's your view on this?

[Armitage Shanks]

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Would UB40 be a thing now, given that most of them were white.
It's nonsense

[surge]

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There are posters of colour/black posters on here so perhaps they should be given the space to speak first.

My initial impression is that there's going to be a range of responses to this and some I find myself agreeing with (Sheryl Nwosu's) and some which I definitely don't (London Hughes).

[dembethewarrior]

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There are posters of colour/black posters on here so perhaps they should be given the space to speak first.

My initial impression is that there's going to be a range of responses to this and some I find myself agreeing with (Sheryl Nwosu's) and some which I definitely don't (London Hughes).

Why can't anyone comment first, or have I been whooshed?

[blue lewj]

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Flip this around and say there was a disagreement that a black man or woman couldn't present a show on say classical music. Would that be wrong?

I think positions like this should be filled by those most qualified and talented to do so, regardless of skin colour or background.
Not sure Cheryl Cole meets the qualified and talented label but still...

[Trigger]

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It's a nonsense.

Get the feeling some would also be unhappy if they said only a black person can host this rnb show.

[life on mars]

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There are posters of colour/black posters on here so perhaps they should be given the space to speak first.

My initial impression is that there's going to be a range of responses to this and some I find myself agreeing with (Sheryl Nwosu's) and some which I definitely don't (London Hughes).

As a person of non colour ,I feel the world has gone mad

[blue lewj]

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It's a nonsense.

Get the feeling some would also be unhappy if they said only a black person can host this rnb show.

Exactly this.

You can't please everybody.
This example with Cheryl Cole you have most people who want equality while others want to be able to celebrate our differences so there is a cross over there for starters. I'm not sure how the two can coexist without some friction.
You then get all of the other arguments thrown into the mix.

People seem to want to be offended in this day and age and seek out reasons to feel that way. Cheryl Cole got the gig, so what.

[WJ99mobile]

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Exactly this.

You can't please everybody.
This example with Cheryl Cole then you have most people who want equality while others want to be able to celebrate our differences so there is a cross over there for starters.
You then get all of the other arguments thrown into the mix.

People seem to want to be offended in this day and age and seek out reasons to feel that way. Cheryl Cole got the gig, so what.

The argument against positive discrimination is that it should always be the best person for the job.

She isn’t even the best person for the job

[blue lewj]

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The argument against positive discrimination is that it should always be the best person for the job.

She isn’t even the best person for the job

I'm entitled to agree but many are simply saying she should be excluded because she is white.

It is wrong whether it is black people saying a white person can't do a certain job or vice versa.

[blue lewj]

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Argue that she's crap, fair enough.

But that is a separate argument in my eyes.

[blue lewj]

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I know the BBC have not brought up the race issue here (many that have commented on it within the article have) but if this was simply a 'Cheryl Cole is not the right person because she isn't talented enough' article does it get as many clicks?

It seems we have to shoehorn race into almost every argument that we can these days. Should the position be exclusively for black people? No. It should have been given to the most deserving though definitely.

[life on mars]

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Exactly this.

You can't please everybody.
This example with Cheryl Cole you have most people who want equality while others want to be able to celebrate our differences so there is a cross over there for starters. I'm not sure how the two can coexist without some friction.
You then get all of the other arguments thrown into the mix.

People seem to want to be offended in this day and age and seek out reasons to feel that way. Cheryl Cole got the gig, so what.

You could argue this is an attack on Cheryl Cole's colour and being .

[blue lewj]

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You could argue this is an attack on Cheryl Cole's colour and being .

You could.

I'm not sure if they're saying she isn't good enough it couldn't just stay at that though.
Why does her being white have to be a factor?
White people can like R'n'B and have opinions on it too.