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I’ve just priced up Cardiff to Edinburgh on the train for the next half term. Train return was £434. Flying was just over £60
Now every time I watch question time and scrapping HS2 is mentioned it gets a big round of applause. I don’t get it. So much hostility to new infrastructure in the UK.
Why would HS2 make it cheaper?
Stop being sensible!!Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
the trains are ridiculously priced in this country. for intercity travel it should be a no brainer, yet it is frequently quicker and cheaper to drive. how I don't know.
It allows for more capacity on the lines
Why are we in Wales laying for it?
Because we’re very, very tired.
Does the Cardiff to Edinburgh route have any crossover with the London to Birmingham route?
Train travel in the uk is the most expensive form of public transport in the world, FACT. It costs more money per mile to travel on trains in the UK than a first class ticket on Concorde was!
How does that make it cheaper?
Used to go to away games regularly by train in the 60s, me and my lot fancied it again lately. Horrendous prices, not viable at all. I’d love to go by rail again but I fear it’ll never happen. Checked it out for the Liverpool game, £100 return was the cheapest I could find, we opted for National Express at £41 return.
There isn't a Cardiff to Edinburgh route, just different ways to get between the two.
As things stand, travel to the north is often cheaper going through Manchester as advance train prices are cheaper between here and Manchester than between here and Birmingham.
Train lines are a monopoly even with multiple operators only one can operate a journey. It would be expensive as **** still don’t be naive.
Trains can be the best way to travel but the cost of them in this country are ridiculous.
Flying is cheap as we don’t pay tax on airline fuel. If we paid tax on the fuel it fall into line with other transport. However train travel in the UK is too expensive.
We give train operators billions of taxpayers money which we don't give to airlines.
What is the solution? I love a train journey and if it was more affordable would use them 100%. Millions must be lost when people like us see the prices and immediately dismiss it and hit the road, madness really.
Renationalising them is a swear word to some, but we pay billions to train operators when they don't make a profit, then when they do, they keep it. The railways cost the taxpayer more in real terms now than they ever did when they were under public ownership.
Airlines don’t pay tax on any of their fuel, so we subsidise in a different way.
I'm aware of that. I presume the answer lies with global cooperation, so there's little chance of things changing that much. In the UK we charge duties on tickets, that barely covers it and if it rose significantly, would result in lots of people ditching plane travel - not good for those who rely on the speed of it for business and government.
Absolutely, not a level playing field or train track even!
Having not taken a train for years Its become a viable option now on cost.
Just come back from London £119 return (2 adults and 2 kids).
If we drove up it would have been about £55 fuel, £35 parking, £15 congestion charge/ULEZ.
For that little bit more it was worth it to relax and just under 2 hours.
Same sort of costing when I went to Stanstead airport a couple of months ago.
Bristol City away next week £13.50 all day return just for me.
It won't knock hundreds of pounds off the cost of a train journey but have you tried any split-ticketing websites?
I have been using the Trainline app and been happy with the price I paid.
I’ll have a look as I’ll probably do the Train for the Liverpool game.
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