Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
Whichever way this war turns out, Russia have really shot themselves in the foot. They've spent the last 25 years building up a solid trade relationship with the West, and that's all been destroyed in just three weeks. No-one will be rushing to trade with them again, and they've also shown everyone that they aren't that great a fighting force, either. With one wayward decision, Russia has been set back decades.
Unless that was the intention all along. Too much Western influence, too many capitalist tendencies creeping in.
As every day goes by it looks more and more like a massive (and murderous) miscalculation by Putin, his circle and his backers.

There are plenty of conspiracy theorists on this board who have been claiming this (like the Covid 'plandemic') is all part of the New World Order master plan to enslave what is left of humanity after the vaccine cull.

But to me it is just more evidence that 'cock up' not conspiracy is usually the right answer.

Even if Putin gets some neutrality guarantee from Ukraine and NATO and gets agreement to autonomy for eastern Ukraine it will still be a monumental political, social and economic own goal.