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Thread: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

  1. #26

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    yes we are waiting for the CAS decision to whether he was a Cardiff player at the time of the accident, with potentially more litigation to follow depending on the outcome
    Couldn't the new owners just drop the case? It's a VT case mode than anything isn't it?

  2. #27

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Couldn't the new owners just drop the case? It's a VT case mode than anything isn't it?
    sure then we would have to pay the full transfer fee to Nantes presumably

  3. #28

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Any London team would be ahead of us. Then clubs with smaller debts and more efficient running costs.

  4. #29

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    sure then we would have to pay the full transfer fee to Nantes presumably
    Yes. But the looming Court case would be gone, i presumed the potential owners wouldn't like the publicity of the case.

  5. #30

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canton Kev View Post
    Any London team would be ahead of us. Then clubs with smaller debts and more efficient running costs.
    if I was an idle billionaire with my money burning a giant hole in my pocket then I'd probably be thinking about the current criteria
    1: price
    2: current assets ground/players etc
    3: current fanbase
    4: potential fanbase
    5: marketability
    6: academy track record

    I don't think we would be in the top few of many of those criteria, not sure about price

  6. #31

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    There's a wikipedia page, here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...football_clubs, where they estimate the potential financial backing available to the majority of the 92 English Premier and EFL clubs.

    According to that, Newcastle United is richer than all others combined. Surprisingly, on paper Barnsley's owners make Vinnie Tan appear skint in comparison.

  7. #32

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    There's a wikipedia page, here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...football_clubs, where they estimate the potential financial backing available to the majority of the 92 English Premier and EFL clubs.

    According to that, Newcastle United is richer than all others combined. Surprisingly, on paper Barnsley's owners make Vinnie Tan appear skint in comparison.
    Bournemouth have done well with 100 million.

  8. #33

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Perfect time for an investor with deep pockets to buy us this summer. Clean slate, only about 3 players on the payroll. Buy Steve Cooper out of his Forest contract, tell him to bring Johnson with him and away we go

  9. #34

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount View Post
    If a big, rich, benefactor was looking to buy a new team, surely amongst the championship teams, we'd be a top 3 prospect?

    - Capital city
    - 1 City team (no rivals within 12 miles)
    - 2 million people in relatively close catchment area who have been starved of top football for decades
    - Welsh football and language on an upswing
    - Relatively new stadium + facilities


    Bristol City would also be an attractive prospect, and Forest (2 Champions Leagues)
    I'm not sure that any of these apply, at least, not to any great extent (maybe catchment area).
    I would say that what potential buyers look for is:
    1. Little or no debt.
    2. Reasonable price.
    3. Potential.

    Everything else is much the same, wherever you go.
    Cardiff has little debt (compared to most), could be available at a reasonable price, and has great potential.

  10. #35

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    I'm not sure that any of these apply, at least, not to any great extent (maybe catchment area).
    I would say that what potential buyers look for is:
    1. Little or no debt.
    2. Reasonable price.
    3. Potential.

    Everything else is much the same, wherever you go.
    Cardiff has little debt (compared to most), could be available at a reasonable price, and has great potential.
    This,

    Debts, Assets, ROI & potential. Whether we like it or not, it’s a Business first & football club second.

    Who in their right mind would take on the debt,then knowing that the club permanently runs at a loss?

  11. #36

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    This,

    Debts, Assets, ROI & potential. Whether we like it or not, it’s a Business first & football club second.

    Who in their right mind would take on the debt,then knowing that the club permanently runs at a loss?
    Someone who sees potential and can sort that out? Surely running at a loss permanently is the fault of the current owner? I guess in football, though, this happens regularly and the scale of the losses is maybe more important? How many clubs make a profit?

  12. #37

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    We have been through this in the past. If buying CCFC was such a marvellous opportunity wouldn't we expect to see a Welsh benefactor come along?

  13. #38

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    There's a wikipedia page, here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...football_clubs, where they estimate the potential financial backing available to the majority of the 92 English Premier and EFL clubs.

    According to that, Newcastle United is richer than all others combined. Surprisingly, on paper Barnsley's owners make Vinnie Tan appear skint in comparison.
    Interesting. Forgot the Venky's still owned Blackburn.

  14. #39

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    The potential , catchment area argument blah blah blah is only worth mentioning if these people turn up to watch us

    We have bigger potential support than forest , derby , stoke etc

    But their fans actually turn up whereas a lot of ours stay at home or just see us as a second team behind their premiership favourite

    It's a joke

  15. #40

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    The potential , catchment area argument blah blah blah is only worth mentioning if these people turn up to watch us

    We have bigger potential support than forest , derby , stoke etc

    But their fans actually turn up whereas a lot of ours stay at home or just see us as a second team behind their premiership favourite

    It's a joke
    The club has spent almost 2 decades in the bottom 2 divisions. Clubs with a similar history to ours tend to have bigger fluctuations in crowds than clubs who have almost always been in the top 2 divisions, particularly if they've enjoyed longer terms in the top flight. We've barely been a top flight side for generations.

  16. #41

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Am i the only one who wants to see us fully fan owned

  17. #42

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    The club has spent almost 2 decades in the bottom 2 divisions. Clubs with a similar history to ours tend to have bigger fluctuations in crowds than clubs who have almost always been in the top 2 divisions, particularly if they've enjoyed longer terms in the top flight. We've barely been a top flight side for generations.
    Stop being so apologist for our crap support , it's embarrassing

  18. #43

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Stop being so apologist for our crap support , it's embarrassing
    8th biggest home support in the championship for our worst season in 20 years. Very embarrassing....

  19. #44

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Stop being so apologist for our crap support , it's embarrassing
    I’m amazed we still have such decent support to be honest. What have we had 2 really successful seasons in 40 years? One in red that ended in disaster and the Warnock one. I guess you could throw in the league 1 playoff final even though we were quite fortunate to go up that year.

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    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Roman Abramovich is looking to invest in a friendly country/club .

  21. #46

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    Am i the only one who wants to see us fully fan owned
    Have you met our fans?!

  22. #47

    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Have you met our fans?!
    Every player would be on a 'Pay as you play' Contract.

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    Re: Are we the most attractive prospect to buy of all the Championship sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    I’m amazed we still have such decent support to be honest. What have we had 2 really successful seasons in 40 years? One in red that ended in disaster and the Warnock one. I guess you could throw in the league 1 playoff final even though we were quite fortunate to go up that year.

    If you took out away support for most clubs, I’d say our “home-only” crowds is probably higher than 8th.
    Look how many away fans regularly go to other grounds in much larger numbers compared to ours.

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