Sam Bowen to Newport

[J R Hartley]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Very unfair to label Bowen in this way without either a shred of evidence or knowing what has gone on. You ay that he featured under Mick, sorry, my memory and observation skills are lacking. Mick might be a few thing, but a fool he is not, if there was one person who would not put up with a poor attitude, then it would be him.

Just read something on ****, they’ve got form for making things up.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Maybe he's got a good relationship with James Rowberry and is happy to link up with him again

He can't follow him everywhere, one day he may come across another manager he doesn't get on with? Surely it's best to use that to fire you up to want to succeed more?

I'm glad he's somewhere for now where he can play and develop, but moving forward I think he needs to toughen up a bit mentally. Don't waste a career blaming managers you don't click with.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Very unfair to label Bowen in this way without either a shred of evidence or knowing what has gone on. You ay that he featured under Mick, sorry, my memory and observation skills are lacking. Mick might be a few thing, but a fool he is not, if there was one person who would not put up with a poor attitude, then it would be him.

Surely unfair to label the manager things without evidence too? But that seems to go on.

[2b2bdoo]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Shame he wasn’t up to it but we have moved on.

[Tuerto]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Surely unfair to label the manager things without evidence too? But that seems to go on.

I'd say that the majority of things labeled towards the manager have been on his media appearances or tactics, which is quite evidential when forming an opinion, whether right or wrong. Some people saying that Bowen had a poor attitude without any evidence to back it up is just wrong. If people want to form an opinion based on Bowen's performances, then fair enough.

[blue matt]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Jason was a decent player

didnt he have another son who was with our academy ? ? ? Jaye

[the other bob wilson]

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Jason was a decent player

didnt he have another son who was with our academy ? ? ? Jaye

Yes he did, Jaye was more like Jason in that he played as a winger/wide midfielder - a talented player, but he never really looked like breaking into the first team squad.

[Des Parrot]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Yes he did, Jaye was more like Jason in that he played as a winger/wide midfielder - a talented player, but he never really looked like breaking into the first team squad.

Jaye was at Cinderford Town for a while and has been at numerous clubs since, was last at Penybont I think.

Wasn’t Jason diagnosed with MND last year?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Mick McCarthy basically said that Bowen was not versatile enough in that he appeared happy to stay in a sitting midfield position and was not stretching himself when he first came to the club, hence his use in a right wing back or more advanced midfield role in some of his first team appearances.

Statistically, the most dominant performance the City produced bar none last season was at home to Reading where we had twenty seven goal attempts to two and somehow ended up losing 1-0. Sam Bowen, playing an advanced midfield role, was as good as anyone in a blue shirt in that match and who knows what would have happened after that if he'd not got injured. My suspicion is though that things would have probably turned out just the same as they have done as long as Steve Morison was in charge as he clearly doesn't rate the player.

Perhaps Bowen's "attitude problem" (in the unlikely event that he had one) was down to the knowledge that, no matter what he did, he was going to get nowhere at the club under this manager - certainly, Bowen's performances for the Under 23 side once he'd come back from his injury looked like those of someone who knew he had no chance of selection in the senior side.

I'm surprised and disappointed Steve Morison didn't recognise Bowen's ability, but there'll always be players who become surplus to requirements when a new manager takes over and this could turn out to be a very good move for Sam if can show why some of us have a lot of faith in him - it's the best thing he could have done in his position. and I wish him well for the future

[Father Dougal]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

Mick McCarthy basically said that Bowen was not versatile enough in that he appeared happy to stay in a sitting midfield position and was not stretching himself when he first came to the club, hence his use in a right wing back or more advanced midfield role in some of his first team appearances.

Statistically, the most dominant performance the City produced bar none last season was at home to Reading where we had twenty seven goal attempts to two and somehow ended up losing 1-0. Sam Bowen, playing an advanced midfield role, was as good as anyone in a blue shirt in that match and who knows what would have happened after that if he'd not got injured. My suspicion is though that things would have probably turned out just the same as they have done as long as Steve Morison was in charge as he clearly doesn't rate the player.

Perhaps Bowen's "attitude problem" (in the unlikely event that he had one) was down to the knowledge that, no matter what he did, he was going to get nowhere at the club under this manager - certainly, Bowen's performances for the Under 23 side once he'd come back from his injury looked like those of someone who knew he had no chance of selection in the senior side.

I'm surprised and disappointed Steve Morison didn't recognise Bowen's ability, but there'll always be players who become surplus to requirements when a new manager takes over and this could turn out to be a very good move for Sam if can show why some of us have a lot of faith in him - it's the best thing he could have done in his position. and I wish him well for the future

Yep he has gone to a manger who knows him well so he obviously doesn't feel there is too much of an attitude problem!

Bowen will do really well at Newport I'm sure. However it is league 2 I suppose and sometimes a step back can help kick things on and it's certainly needed as his career is going nowhere at Cardiff. Good luck to him!

[dml1954]

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Very unfair to label Bowen in this way without either a shred of evidence or knowing what has gone on. You ay that he featured under Mick, sorry, my memory and observation skills are lacking. Mick might be a few thing, but a fool he is not, if there was one person who would not put up with a poor attitude, then it would be him.

Yet you appear quite happy to label Morison and the club, without a shred of evidence or knowing what has gone on. Seems a tad hypocritical to me. Believing anything Hartley says is a bit much as well, bearing in mind his one man crusade to discredit anything that Morison does or says. Could it perhaps just be that Bowen is not good enough - just throwing the idea out there. I know its a revolutionary idea but worth considering don't you think?

[Tuerto]

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Yet you appear quite happy to label Morison and the club, without a shred of evidence or knowing what has gone on. Seems a tad hypocritical to me. Believing anything Hartley says is a bit much as well, bearing in mind his one man crusade to discredit anything that Morison does or says. Could it perhaps just be that Bowen is not good enough - just throwing the idea out there. I know its a revolutionary idea but worth considering don't you think?

Where have I had a go at Morison or the club in my post? I am referring to people on the internet spreading rumours over Bowen's supposed poor attitude. You've been hitting the rough quite a lot lately. Sort your swing out mate!

[FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

A few months ago there was a thread on here about which of the youngsters would be the most likely to make it, and I said, based on ability alone, it would be Bowen.

Im clearly not as privy to the inner workings of the club as some on here, but of the rumours I have heard, it seems that Bowen's problems are not related to his ability.

In Bellamy's interview with VFTN about the youngsters, he did mention that Bowen has always had a tendency to not push himself and take the easy route. And this seems to be the basis of most of the rumours going around.

Whatever the case, it's a shame for the club. Hopefully Eli King can continue to kick on and develop into a Championship level player.

[dembethewarrior]

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I'd say that the majority of things labeled towards the manager have been on his media appearances or tactics, which is quite evidential when forming an opinion, whether right or wrong. Some people saying that Bowen had a poor attitude without any evidence to back it up is just wrong. If people want to form an opinion based on Bowen's performances, then fair enough.

I was referring to whatnpeoples opinions are of him based on Bowen, nobody knows what's happened between the two of them.

For what it's worth I did want Bowen to succeed here as well and had a moan when Doyle came in Jan as I thought he was blocking his pathway to the team..someone put me.straight saying they were different types of player.

People close to the player will take his side, they'll hear from him his side of events etc. I think he could have kept his head down and got on with it and not blamed the manager. He's going to have other managers in his career and they aren't all going to be holding out the red carpet for him, but he still needs to make a career for himself. These managers won't go away..so he needs to change.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Sam Bowen to Newport

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In Bellamy's interview with VFTN about the youngsters, he did mention that Bowen has always had a tendency to not push himself and take the easy route. And this seems to be the basis of most of the rumours going around.

And instead of going to league 1 he's gone to James Rowberry in league 2. Interesting.