Fifty more Downing St. fines.

[TWGL1]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

Be careful how you phrase things , and who’s denied anything, Clearly it’s something that’s affects people over a certain age with co-morbidity elements to health.

Why am I compelled to ask these questions when nobody in the MSM are asking them ?

I don’t mind you saying “ nasty “ things to me if I knew you but I don’t , as long as you would say the same things to me to my face which I suspect you wouldn’t would you ?

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

Be careful how you phrase things , and who’s denied anything, Clearly it’s something that’s affects people over a certain age with co-morbidity elements to health.

Why am I compelled to ask these questions when nobody in the MSM are asking them ?

I don’t mind you saying “ nasty “ things to me if I knew you but I don’t , as long as you would say the same things to me to my face which I suspect you wouldn’t would you ?

I would absolutely say them to your face. Why on earth wouldn't I challenge the absolute tripe you say on here if I heard you say it in person.

Your views are frankly offensive. Not because they are different to mine but you consistently deny facts and believe everything your read that you don't like is a hoax or fake news

"Why am I compelled to ask these questions when nobody in the MSM are asking them ?"

I dread to think what this question actually means.

You're categorically wrong about the risks of Covid and whether you can face that fact or not, you will be consistently corrected and presented with the evidence that shows your are wrong - and sometimes you also be belittled for your views/questions/opinions (delete as appropriate) by myself and others as you deserve nothing but contempt for some of the absolute rubbish you have posted on here.

Have a lovely evening.

[TWGL1]

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I would absolutely say them to your face. Why on earth wouldn't I challenge the absolute tripe you say on here if I heard you say it in person.

Your views are frankly offensive. Not because they are different to mine but you consistently deny facts and believe everything your read that you don't like is a hoax or fake news

"Why am I compelled to ask these questions when nobody in the MSM are asking them ?"

I dread to think what this question actually means.

You're categorically wrong about the risks of Covid and whether you can face that fact or not, you will be consistently corrected and presented with the evidence that shows your are wrong - and sometimes you also be belittled for your views/questions/opinions (delete as appropriate) by myself and others as you deserve nothing but contempt for some of the absolute rubbish you have posted on here.

Have a lovely evening.

I don’t particularly care what you think, or others in-fact. I didn’t have a party or break the rules so I find it perplexing that the top table of government did without the same concern as the public and as you say what the “Data” is telling them. It’s obvious to me and most of my social circle why they did. You don’t have to agree though.

[the other bob wilson]

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Yes right :hehe:

Imagine how many people 100 attendees would have put at risk, indirectly, not forgetting catering staff , security, taxi drivers etc. There was no risk. They knew it.
The rule makers were the rule breakers - do the maths.

You make no allowance for people at works events/parties/gatherings or whatever Johnson and his apologists are calling them today catching Covid and passing it on to to people overa certain age with co morbidity elements who even you concede were in danger from Covid.

One other thing, are you really saying that all of the people at number ten knew that Covid was no threat to them back in May 2020?

[TWGL1]

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You make no allowance for people at works events/parties/gatherings or whatever Johnson and his apologists are calling them today catching Covid and passing it on to to people overa certain age with co morbidity elements who even you concede were in danger from Covid.

One other thing, are you really saying that all of the people at number ten knew that Covid was no threat to them back in May 2020?

I just can’t imagine it being allowed if they were following the science and Government data. They would know more than what they were telling the public.

Would you have attended an event like this at the time ?

[bigjoe]

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Boris Johnson says he won't resign. I remember a lot of UK politicians. I cannot think of one I've despised more than him. For the sake of even-handedness, I'll add that Tony Blair was previously top of the list.

[the other bob wilson]

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I just can’t imagine it being allowed if they were following the science and Government data. They would know more than what they were telling the public.

Would you have attended an event like this at the time ?

No, absolutely no way. The truth is that there are some very selfish people about and, right from very early in the pandemic, it was known that the chances of people dying or becoming seriously ill with Covid declined dramatically the younger you were. In a working environment that I suspect contained plenty of large egos, they tended not to think of the consequences for others, only themselves.

[Tito Fuente]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

I don’t particularly care what you think, or others in-fact. I didn’t have a party or break the rules so I find it perplexing that the top table of government did without the same concern as the public and as you say what the “Data” is telling them. It’s obvious to me and most of my social circle why they did. You don’t have to agree though.

It's not perplexing in the slightest when you take into account which government you are discussing.

This government are corrupt through and through and don't give a hoot about anyone other than themselves. They happily stab each other in the back if they think that it can help elevate their own political future.

The fact that they were partying whilst knowing the dangers of Covid isn't proof that they "knew there was no risk" - it's categorical proof that they simply didn't care about the inevitability that they could be spreading it and killing people.

It's a prime example of "do as I say, not as I do". They think that they were above sticking to the rules, even though they knew the risks.

Politicians throughout history have been found to have been hypocrites. That's all that this is: hypocrisy.

[TWGL1]

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It's not perplexing in the slightest when you take into account which government you are discussing.

This government are corrupt through and through and don't give a hoot about anyone other than themselves. They happily stab each other in the back if they think that it can help elevate their own political future.

The fact that they were partying whilst knowing the dangers of Covid isn't proof that they "knew there was no risk" - it's categorical proof that they simply didn't care about the inevitability that they could be spreading it and killing people.

It's a prime example of "do as I say, not as I do". They think that they were above sticking to the rules, even though they knew the risks.

Politicians throughout history have been found to have been hypocrites. That's all that this is: hypocrisy.

If you think the government are corrupt (bold statement) then clearly you must accept people have the right to at least question the policy of lockdown two years later.

All the predictions were wildly inaccurate and were common knowledge at the time. I think it will take years to recover from this.

[Tito Fuente]

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If you think the government are corrupt (bold statement) then clearly you must accept people have the right to at least question the policy of lockdown two years later.

All the predictions were wildly inaccurate and were common knowledge at the time. I think it will take years to recover from this.

Declaring that this government is corrupt is a "bold statement"? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

Thanks for that.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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No, absolutely no way. The truth is that there are some very selfish people about and, right from very early in the pandemic, it was known that the chances of people dying or becoming seriously ill with Covid declined dramatically the younger you were. In a working environment that I suspect contained plenty of large egos, they tended not to think of the consequences for others, only themselves.

Very well put, TOBW. Many people may have thought that they themselves may have survived Covid OK (which may not have necessarily have been the case) but considered the possibility that they could pass on the virus to someone older and have been effectively responsible for someone else's demise.

[Gofer Blue]

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If your M.P. is a Tory then I suggest you write to him/her asap to ask them to stand up and be counted as one of the 54 required to trigger the vote of no confidence in the P.M. In my case I will be doing that tomorrow morning. If you or Joe Public don't bother then they can justifiably claim that there is no appetite amongst their constituents for such action.

I did once read somewhere that if M.P.'s receive more than a certain number of letters/emails on a single subject then that means that there are probably a whole lot more people out there who feel the same way. Typically I can't find any reference to that now but IIRC it was a relative small number.

[lardy]

Re: Fifty more Downing St. fines.

Be careful how you phrase things , and who’s denied anything, Clearly it’s something that’s affects people over a certain age with co-morbidity elements to health.

Why am I compelled to ask these questions when nobody in the MSM are asking them ?

I don’t mind you saying “ nasty “ things to me if I knew you but I don’t , as long as you would say the same things to me to my face which I suspect you wouldn’t would you ?

No one else is asking the questions, because frankly they are stupid.

Number 10 was by far the biggest concentration of fines. Why weren't scientists, virologists, healthcare workers, etc all partying hard? Surely they "understand the risks" more than politicians, civil servants and admin?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Meanwhile, the medical 'guru' who promulgated strict lockdown policies and hectored the government and the public non-stop for two years got away scot free after his lockdown-breaking shagging visits demonstrated the ultimate hypocrisy.

I'm no fan of BJ, but some of those lockdown rules were absolute ludicrous, and more fool the public for slavishly following them to the letter.

[Tito Fuente]

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Meanwhile, the medical 'guru' who promulgated strict lockdown policies and hectored the government and the public non-stop for two years got away scot free after his lockdown-breaking shagging visits demonstrated the ultimate hypocrisy.

I'm no fan of BJ, but some of those lockdown rules were absolute ludicrous, and more fool the public for slavishly following them to the letter.

If you mean Neil Ferguson - he resigned from his government role for undermining the lockdown rules, which is what people are wanting Boris Johnson to do.

Saying that he got off "scot free" is incorrect.