It's very difficult to understand what precise version of national identity people want when following Wales.

Twenty or thirty years ago going away was a bit like being a poor man's England but with greater factionalism. Dambusters songs in Nuremberg. Crews fighting each other on bridges in Milan. OK that was a product of its age but the difference between my trip to Wroclaw and Warsaw 20 years ago could not be more marked.

Bucket hats are not for me but they give those following the team an identity. It's a different take on Stadium Welsh than Daffodil faces and Max Boyce leeks but I prefer it. All those who come North/South in droves for home games, percentagewise many more speaking Welsh than within the City deserve a voice.

People express a sense of belonging in different ways. The current way with Welsh football seems inclusive and tolerant. You don't have to join some nationalistic sect who wants to burn someone's 2nd home to belt out Yma o Hyd.