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I couldn't disagree more. It's Man Utd's kick-off, so why should he give the ball to any of Liverpool's players? Never understood that nonsense at all. No idea why refs seem to side with the team who have just scored. It's not their ball, plain and simple.Originally Posted by splott parker
If the Liverpool players hadn’t wrestled it from him, he’d still have hold of the bugger now. He was determined to time waste with no intention of getting the ball to the centre circle, it was petty, childish and he made a bit of a knob of himself, throwing himself to the ground holding his head was cringeworthy.
Forget that it was Man Utd, Liverpool, whoever. Just explain to me what right a player has to wrestle the ball off an opponent when it's that opponent's kick-off. I've never understood it. Just don't get it.
Let's say we're in the last few minutes of a game and the ball goes out for a goal kick. Does an opposition player have the right to wrestle the ball off the goalkeeper? If not, what's the difference?
We’ve seen goalies booked for time wasting at goal kicks, forwards grabbing the ball and placing it in the six yard box for the opposing ‘keeper to take goal kicks. The Liverpool players would have ran with the ball and placed it on the centre spot in the same way. Players are very often booked for time wasting at throw ins. Players from the losing team very often run after a ball when it’s out of play and retrieve it and place it on the restart spot when it’s evidently not their kick.
None of that answers my question, though.
Apologies, but this has been a bugbear of mine for years. I just don't get it at all. It's my kick-off, but it's apparently fine for you to wrestle the ball off me and run away with it. Utter nonsense.
Just stop clock when goal scored. Time on doesn’t begin til the kick off. Sorted.None of that answers my question, though.
Apologies, but this has been a bugbear of mine for years. I just don't get it at all. It's my kick-off, but it's apparently fine for you to wrestle the ball off me and run away with it. Utter nonsense.
.....House of the Dragon on Sky Atlantic. Glad I didn't switch off, I may have ended up accidentally watching that.
Yes. Just add the time on.
Christ i agree with you
So should the ref book a player from the side that’s losing if he runs and retrieves a ball for a goal kick that the defending side, who are winning, refuse to go and get? After all by your logic, it’s not his side’s ball.Christ i agree with you
Players very often get booked for time wasting for delaying a restart and that was blatant delaying last night. Perhaps refs should just stand there, stop their watch and just prior to the restart an announcement should be made, “Due to blatant time wasting, a minimum of an additional two minutes will be added on”. We’re paying to watch the ball in play, not a mini rugby match in the six yard box.
No, obviously not. He’s not manhandling his opponent, so he’s doing nothing wrong. He’s merely retrieving a dead ball. Different situation altogether to wrestling the ball away from an opponent.
You say Bruno Fernandes was blatantly delaying the restart last night, but that’s nonsense. He didn’t have any time to do that as Salah and Co were trying to wrestle the ball away from him within a couple of seconds of the goal being scored.
Dave, he even dropped to the floor feigning a head injury after he lost the battle for the ball, which, thankfully for him the ref totally ignored because he had most probably had to issue a second yellow. Not one other Manchester player came to his aid, they most probably thought, ‘What a knob’. Perhaps a red card would have stopped his gallop in future incidents.
I know, I saw it, but that’s not the issue I’m talking about. I couldn’t care less about Fernandes. What irritates me is the general notion that any player has a licence to manhandle an opponent and wrestle the ball away from him if a goal is scored late in a game. It’s a nonsense.
In the unlikely event that City were leading 2-0 against the Jacks and Swansea scored a late goal, I’d love to see the reaction if Piroe or Obafemi attempted to wrestle the ball away from Ng or Allsop.
I’d also like to see the reaction if a player did this in the first couple of minutes of a game as opposed to the last couple of minutes.
Him dropping to the floor holding his head feigning injury was the result of him losing the ‘grab the ball’ battle. Had he not grabbed the ball that wouldn’t have occurred, it was all linked to his ridiculous actions. Time wasting, which was his aim, should be clamped down on and the minutes publicly added on. Yes, it was his team’s ball to restart but as is the case when goalkeepers get booked for taking an age over a goal kick, even though it’s their team’s ball to restart, it’s time wasting. A bookable offence which if the same criteria was applied would have seen him sent off. It was a ridiculous instance in a decent game.
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