I think that judgements can be made to a degree. The players we are watching aren't going to change too much from now until the end of the season. They're mostly seasoned professionals, not new to the game, most of them aren't going to improve that much. That's not to say that they're bad players, they're not, there's a consistency there now that hasn't been prevalent for some time, but there's no zip in my opinion, a lack of urgency and desire at times. It's decent in a methodical sense. We need a couple of players with a bit of bastard in them, like chopra had or Mc cormack or dare i say young isacc Davies. Busy little bastards who are assertive and cause problems in the right areas.