CCMB changes

[Wales-Bales]

It's a shame that individuals can cause so much chaos to something that people enjoy.
It's happened for years though with multis and concentrated efforts to sow discord.

I'm on a few sites where people have a specific shared interest, but they still subdivide into groups and have a go at each other!

[splott parker]

This Lither poster has chucked hand grenades everywhere hasn’t he. The board did take a weird turn which came to a head after no action was taken to curtail him, then a (very) few chucking the ‘free speech’ argument in. It was heartening to see, what I consider to be the backbone of the board, posters of all political & social persuasions shaking their head at him. He pushed the free speech situation over a cliff. The majority of barneys on here are carried out without vendettas and, as I’ve said before, posters who wholeheartedly disagree on one thread will find themselves as allies on another thread with a different subject. Was he a ‘plant’ to stir things up? Espionage from the dark side

[PontBlue]

It only needs two forum: Football and anything else. It also needs moderators to keep people on topic, so threads don't descend into arguments

[Cleve van Leef]

So would I. That's something I've always advocated, but it will never happen.

I believe this message board is currently in far and away the worst state it's ever been in, and it's now a complete and utter shambles. CCMB is dominated by two deranged individuals who seem to have nothing better to do with their lives than continually post divisive rubbish on here, and there are a number of other cowardly morons who keep reappearing under various different usernames in order to disrupt pretty much every thread. Meanwhile, the board's one and only regular moderator isn't in any way fit for the role.

It's a shame, as CCMB used to be great fun and it had a significant number of decent contributors, but it's gone from bad to worse in recent years. Standards have slowly but very surely plummeted and it's reached the stage where most of the best posters have already left, and the remainder are posting less and less often.

I think the time has come for this particular section of CCMB to become a dedicated football-only message board. All other subjects should be either discussed in another part of the forum, or the threads concerning anything else should be instantly deleted.

CCMB is on its knees and desperately needs to change. Mike has a decision to make, because it can't carry on like it is now.

A serious question, I know you and I have “crossed swords” intelligently in the past, I believe you would make an excellent moderator, so why not not? Deterioration of this board is mainly due to new comers, probably just out of nappies. There is always a place though for “banter” between posters as long as it doesn’t get out of hand. This is still the only real Cardiff City Messageboard.

[ToTaL ITK]

Isn't it a case of people harking back to the good old days of CCMB? The internet is quite interesting from sociological perspective, but I already see it as a failed experiment, and the negatives will continue to grow exponentially.

I think the internet is great it's just social media and message boards that get out of hand

[Michael Morris]

Thinking further I am going to have two forums. The main one which will be as initially designed as Cardiff City, football, sport, entertainment and help.

The alternative will just be the other stuff that drags the main board down. Politics, religion, trolling posts, spam etc.

Please PM me with any concerns anyone has about the way a thread is going or deliberate trolling by posters you suspect of causing trouble and I’ll look in to it.

Do we have any level headed apolitical people who want to be a moderator. Just to lock or delete threads that you feel are going the wrong way? I can then look into them. Also going to look at user moderation as I think it’s too easy to get a new multi account.

As many who have replied have said we don’t want to lose the spirit and the general feeling of community but we have to stop the troublemakers and those who stir up shit for the sake of it.

[jeepster]

This board has some of the best people and very helpful.
Then a knob turns up.
Do not change the board just be more proactive in weeding out the bad posters.
Good post,also the good posters out number the bad.
I have found so many helpful people on here and not just with advice but actual help.

[tforturton]

This is just my opinion, but if you start creating lots of different sub-forums, the upshot will be:
1. That they won't get used - or if they do, the majority will not bother to read them. I can't remember the last time I went anywhere other than the main forum. And..
2. It will take away a lot of the variety that makes the main forum what it is. Here, you can read about football, local issues, humour, other news stories, help wanted, plus just general chat, and it's all in the same place. It's good.

The main issue is not the variety of threads. After all, if someone posts a rubbish comment, then it soon sinks to the bottom and gets forgotten. The main issue is the bullies, who disrupt almost every thread with their sarcasm, point-scoring, and nit-picking. I'd love to say there are only one or two people involved, but I think there are closer to seven or eight.

Perhaps there should be a 'report' button. Accumulating 'reports' might lead to a short-term ban, for example, though I'm sure the usual culprits will find some way to abuse that system.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I think the internet is great it's just social media and message boards that get out of hand

You're not going to change it, it's as you say. The last 48hrs the board went into practical meltdown over the Queen's death and related matters. By yesterday afternoon it seemed all spleens had been vented. I'm not sure CCMB is a 'football messageboard' any more as it appears those who actually go to matches are in a small minority and most who post after a City home game have spent the afternoon in their armchairs. [ ex- pats etc. excluded].

[Claude Blue]

I agree with Dave's OP and Mike's response.

A simple solution is to just ignore the troublemakers. They're pretty obvious, even their multiple accounts.

If no one rises to their bait they will, eventually, get bored and go elsewhere.

Couple that with strict moderation, removing anything remotely political to the politics section and swiftly deleting obvious discriminatory post and this board will return to some semblance of normality.

The return of recently left posters would also be a boon.

[Vindec]

So would I. That's something I've always advocated, but it will never happen.

I believe this message board is currently in far and away the worst state it's ever been in, and it's now a complete and utter shambles. CCMB is dominated by two deranged individuals who seem to have nothing better to do with their lives than continually post divisive rubbish on here, and there are a number of other cowardly morons who keep reappearing under various different usernames in order to disrupt pretty much every thread. Meanwhile, the board's one and only regular moderator isn't in any way fit for the role.

It's a shame, as CCMB used to be great fun and it had a significant number of decent contributors, but it's gone from bad to worse in recent years. Standards have slowly but very surely plummeted and it's reached the stage where most of the best posters have already left, and the remainder are posting less and less often.

I think the time has come for this particular section of CCMB to become a dedicated football-only message board. All other subjects should be either discussed in another part of the forum, or the threads concerning anything else should be instantly deleted.

CCMB is on its knees and desperately needs to change. Mike has a decision to make, because it can't carry on like it is now.

With more than 11000 posts you have had more than your fair say.

[the other bob wilson]

Like the idea of keeping entertainment and help on the main board - something needed to be done.

[Cyclops]

It would be a mistake to have a football-only forum imo - or even one with strict parameters of what subjects are posted.
The other board tried this and quickly reverted to a mish-mash of threads. There must have been a reason for this and I would suspect it was a drop in views and replies - I for one wouldn't want to be switching from one forum to another all the time.
I agree that another Mod would be a good idea - simply to share the load, and it makes sense for it to be someone who is not working and available during the daytime - though they wouldn't/couldn't be modding all the time, of course.
I also suggest that the guidelines of use be reviewed, highlighted and applied.

[the other bob wilson]

Take it the Welsh board was not getting used?

[TWGL1]

Why don’t we arrange a forum piss up, that way people can disclose who they are over a beer and relaxed atmosphere?

[Wales-Bales]

I think the internet is great it's just social media and message boards that get out of hand

It starts to look a little different when you factor in the changes to the lives of children and young people in general. An overreliance on technology is not necessarily a good thing, and many parents have already given up. We won't know the true costs for many years to come.

[Wales-Bales]

Why don’t we arrange a forum piss up, that way people can disclose who they are over a beer and relaxed atmosphere?

Message board personas can be deceptive. I've met TBG on a number of occasions and he seems like a jolly chap.

[The Lone Gunman]

With more than 11000 posts you have had more than your fair say.

Great response. Fully in keeping with what this board has become.

[TWGL1]

Perhaps but if people prefer real names then that’s an option, I think it’s a good idea

[Michael Morris]

Thanks for all the comments.

I've merged politics, alternative and welsh forums. So we just have two now.

So if we get a thread directly on politics, religion etc, it has a place to be moved to so some things can still be discussed without spoiling the main board. If something is inappropriate or offensive it will be deleted as usual. And if a thread get's hi-jacked please alert me so it can be moderated sooner.

The general feeling I get is that we need the main board to be more like it was, and not chopped up. I think that is the way to go.

We can't afford to take the humour out of the board but we have to take out the personal attacks, digs and trouble-makers.

[dml1954]

I agree with Dave's OP and Mike's response.

A simple solution is to just ignore the troublemakers. They're pretty obvious, even their multiple accounts.

If no one rises to their bait they will, eventually, get bored and go elsewhere.

Couple that with strict moderation, removing anything remotely political to the politics section and swiftly deleting obvious discriminatory post and this board will return to some semblance of normality.

The return of recently left posters would also be a boon.

Obviously the ‘multiples’ are not obvious enough to some people. I have been wrongly accused of this on a number of occasions by different posters. It is possible of course that they do this to deflect away from their own situation but other than denying it, I am not sure what anyone can do.

[Michael Morris]

Perhaps but if people prefer real names then that’s an option, I think it’s a good idea

It's impossible to impose. I'd be asking for photo ID from everyone.

[Wales-Bales]

Obviously the ‘multiples’ are not obvious enough to some people. I have been wrongly accused of this on a number of occasions by different posters.

I've said it once and I will say it again. You are not me and you will never be me!

[dml1954]

Perhaps but if people prefer real names then that’s an option, I think it’s a good idea

Some people would undoubtedly use it to throw further abuse and threats at people though. People on other boards could also openly read details of posters. I am not even sure that data protection laws would allow it.

[dml1954]

I've said it once and I will say it again. You are not me and you will never be me!

Ditto.