Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
Do you really think the BBC, guardian, perhaps others are at the forefront of open debate, free ideas, challenging orthodoxy etc at the moment?
No I don't. The Guardian and BBC are exemplars of orthodoxy - and defenders (and amplifiers) of the establishment. In the Guardian's case, whilst pretending to be something else.

However, I thought Marina Hyde got it mostly right in her piece, and as usual it was amusing too. Worth sharing as we are discussing all things GBN and Cleese.