Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
Well, I thought you’d done your normal taking charge thing and made it into another thread where you lecture us about how we’re no worse off than France, Germany etc. I merely pointed out that the IMF, and the US President it seems, believes that we are a stand out example of woeful financial management and you cannot just dismiss what you call “grave errors” as if they don’t count somehow.like you’re trying to do with your use of the word “notwithstanding”.

It’s not critics on here that the you need to convince that you are still right about Brexit, it’s a writer at that Brexit cheerleader the Dailty telegraph. However, seeing as you ask, wouldn’t you have thought that getting towards six and a half years after the vote, here would be some stand out event, policy or agreement that Brexiteers could point to and say this has brought lasting, unarguable benefit to everyone in the UK? I can’t think of anything which fits that bill.
You often do this - A thread deviates from your desired direction and you claim there's some kind of mischief at play. I don't lecture anyone Bob, I merely respond to your posts and try and back up my arguments with evidence. Maybe read some of your posts from my position, and see how they sound? It's not lecturing, it's how forums are supposed to work, no? I think it's more fun than just coming on and agreeing with everything you say. We are all grown ups. You say xyz is because of Brexit, I'm saying, if so, show me why this is also happening to countries that havent left the EU. It's not a hard question.

In terms of Brexit, as I said, two months after leaving we had a global pandemic followed by a war in Europe. No countries outlook looks better now than it did three years ago. The potential global trade benefits of Brexit were clearly curtailed by the global economy almost shutting down, and any benefits in terms of wage growth (which is up) is taken out by inflation impacting us all.

The big story since we left of course was the pandemic. Ursula Von Der Leyen herself, did say the UK is like a speedboat compared to the EU tanker, when it came to vaccines. So you can start your list with that?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...boat-eu-tanker