Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
I don't really buy that. Trump is a populist rabble rouser but in a nation of millions with guns I think he would have been able to arrange a better coup than that, don't you? We've seen the videos of that Shamen bloke being led around by cops too.

Nonetheless, Trump absolutely bears some responsibility for it, but I am really not sure the Ukraine war would have happened with him, and I think America seems an even more divided place now. Hence me saying "I am not sure the world is in a better place now", which doesn't seem an unreasonable statement really
Coups usually involve the military, and for good reason. Seeing as he had to advertise it with dog whistles rather than outright recruitment, he came pretty close.

Why don't you think the war in Ukraine would have happened under Trump?