Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
Producing two successful children. It’s not a load of bollox.
Of course it is , self righteous nonsense

Having children is not a difficult thing to do

It's your responsibility and certainly not an ACHIEVEMENT to bring them up





Beating cancer , raising millions for disabled war veterans .....those are achievements


To be a father , grandfather etc is not an achievement

Some of the idiots that used to be on Jeremy Kyle were parents and grandparents and complete wastes of space

Not difficult to bring children into the world