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  1. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Morris View Post
    The first man not named Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, Novak Djokovic or Andy Murray to win the Wimbledon Gentlemen's Singles since 2002.
    Some list of champions there. 5 winners in 20 tournaments. Between 1983 and 2002 there were 10, including a wildcard entrant in 2001!

  2. #27

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    I am glad to see the back of Wimbledon

    The players are incredible athletes but I find it boring

    The fans are odd as well

  3. #28

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    Is it compulsory for defeated finalists in Grand Slam events to cry these days?? I’m afraid I’m with Sludge on this, used to love Wimbledon, now I find it boring - I doubt it if I watched twenty minutes of this year’s tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Is it compulsory for defeated finalists in Grand Slam events to cry these days?? I’m afraid I’m with Sludge on this, used to love Wimbledon, now I find it boring - I doubt it if I watched twenty minutes of this year’s tournament.
    I don't usually watch tennis, but that final was brilliant, a long-term Champion and number one, beaten by a young kid who is the new number one, the game went back and forth it was a great sporting moment.

  5. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Is it compulsory for defeated finalists in Grand Slam events to cry these days?? I’m afraid I’m with Sludge on this, used to love Wimbledon, now I find it boring - I doubt it if I watched twenty minutes of this year’s tournament.
    Same as you, used to follow it avidly and yesterday was the first match I’ve watched of this year’s tournament, boy am I glad I did. It was fantastic, forget tennis, this was sport at its finest, it had everything from the respective ages of the players to the ebb and flow of the match. Relieved in a way that I switched it on, put my feet up and followed it right through, I’d have been kicking myself if I’d have had to just read the reports and catch highlights after the event, watching it unfold live was brilliant.

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    I’m not a tennis fan but have stopped to watch this. Two boxers going at it. This kid is sensationally good.
    Some of those shots he made in that last set are like nothing I’ve ever seen…..great to see the changing of the guard, at least Novak took it with good grace and smashed up a racket so maybe he is human after all….

  7. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Is it compulsory for defeated finalists in Grand Slam events to cry these days?? I’m afraid I’m with Sludge on this, used to love Wimbledon, now I find it boring - I doubt it if I watched twenty minutes of this year’s tournament.
    Thanks for the update Mr Meldrew

  8. #33

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    Usually I watch Wimbledon each evening when I get home from work, but like others I wasn't that bothered this year. Maybe it's the absence of Nadal and Federer and Murray's early exit, or maybe I feel a bit overdosed in sport through watching the Ashes and tour de France.
    Glad I watched most of the final though - brilliant stuff.

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Usually I watch Wimbledon each evening when I get home from work, but like others I wasn't that bothered this year. Maybe it's the absence of Nadal and Federer and Murray's early exit, or maybe I feel a bit overdosed in sport through watching the Ashes and tour de France.
    Glad I watched most of the final though - brilliant stuff.
    Needs a change, I play the game and barely watched a game until the final just assuming Novak would do it again, there’s a few coming through like Alcaraz and Stefanos Tsitsipas, needs a few more like them to keep it interesting

  10. #35

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    Alcaraz winning all the time will quickly become a bore but we'd better get used to it. Stay injury free and he could easily get to 20 slams himself before 30. He's miles better than anyone else bar Djokovic

  11. #36

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    Football first for me but rugby and cricket are watchable as they are team sports

    I find the adulation of individual sportsmen in individual sports a bit strange

    They have a tendency to be a bit spoilt too

    It's argued that's down to the winning mentality

  12. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Football first for me but rugby and cricket are watchable as they are team sports

    I find the adulation of individual sportsmen in individual sports a bit strange

    They have a tendency to be a bit spoilt too

    It's argued that's down to the winning mentality
    I love watching and following the careers of Boxers.
    They are the ultimate sportsmen IMO.

  13. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    I love watching and following the careers of Boxers.
    They are the ultimate sportsmen IMO.
    I think you’d be hard pushed to find a more taxing game than top class singles tennis. I know boxers have to keep fit between bouts but these elite tennis players are on court, under pressure, on their own for hours on end day in, day out. One tournament ends and they’re off to another one. The amount of hours on court in competition, not counting practise and fitness training, when continually reaching semi finals & finals is mind boggling. The concentration levels must be off the scale. For fitness and constantly competing edges it over boxers for me. A top boxer may have to face comparable opposition for just over half an hour perhaps once or twice a year, a lot less if they’re finishing their bouts early, five hours they were on court yesterday after a fortnight’s battling to get there. Obviously no fun getting hit but and I don’t want to demean any boxer but it’s tennis players over them for me.

  14. #39

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    Wimbledon or any tennis tournament reminds of snooker.....bear with me on this one. If you invest the time watching these sports, there is a good chance you will become engrossed because the level of skill can be mesmerising. But nowadays I just don't have the inclination to tune into either snooker or tennis (I did see the last 5 mins of the tennis final) but that says more about me than the sports themselves, which at times can be compulsive viewing.

  15. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Wimbledon or any tennis tournament reminds of snooker.....bear with me on this one. If you invest the time watching these sports, there is a good chance you will become engrossed because the level of skill can be mesmerising. But nowadays I just don't have the inclination to tune into either snooker or tennis (I did see the last 5 mins of the tennis final) but that says more about me than the sports themselves, which at times can be compulsive viewing.
    I would have said darts would have been an even better analogy. Breaks of serve are crucial to determining a game of tennis, breaks of throw the same in darts. In tennis you can have a rally where one player dominates then suddenly puts a smash into the net to lose that point. A dart player can be miles ahead and miss lots of doubles and lose a leg.

  16. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    I love watching and following the careers of Boxers.
    They are the ultimate sportsmen IMO.
    Middleweight and below I think that's a fair call

    But some of the heavyweights are porkers

  17. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I would have said darts would have been an even better analogy. Breaks of serve are crucial to determining a game of tennis, breaks of throw the same in darts. In tennis you can have a rally where one player dominates then suddenly puts a smash into the net to lose that point. A dart player can be miles ahead and miss lots of doubles and lose a leg.
    The comparison I was trying to make has nothing to do with the way these sports are played or the way their results are determined. What I was trying to get over is that both sports can become compulsive viewing and easily get you hooked.

  18. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I think you’d be hard pushed to find a more taxing game than top class singles tennis. I know boxers have to keep fit between bouts but these elite tennis players are on court, under pressure, on their own for hours on end day in, day out. One tournament ends and they’re off to another one. The amount of hours on court in competition, not counting practise and fitness training, when continually reaching semi finals & finals is mind boggling. The concentration levels must be off the scale. For fitness and constantly competing edges it over boxers for me. A top boxer may have to face comparable opposition for just over half an hour perhaps once or twice a year, a lot less if they’re finishing their bouts early, five hours they were on court yesterday after a fortnight’s battling to get there. Obviously no fun getting hit but and I don’t want to demean any boxer but it’s tennis players over them for me.
    Its not just over half an hour twice a year.

    Its all the training. The thousands of punches taken to the head mostly in sparring.

    Fitness its arguable. But the boxers life is the hardest by far.

  19. #44

    Re: Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I think you’d be hard pushed to find a more taxing game than top class singles tennis. I know boxers have to keep fit between bouts but these elite tennis players are on court, under pressure, on their own for hours on end day in, day out. One tournament ends and they’re off to another one. The amount of hours on court in competition, not counting practise and fitness training, when continually reaching semi finals & finals is mind boggling. The concentration levels must be off the scale. For fitness and constantly competing edges it over boxers for me. A top boxer may have to face comparable opposition for just over half an hour perhaps once or twice a year, a lot less if they’re finishing their bouts early, five hours they were on court yesterday after a fortnight’s battling to get there. Obviously no fun getting hit but and I don’t want to demean any boxer but it’s tennis players over them for me.
    That’s a fair enough point.
    Their sacrifices, fitness, talent, drive and consistency is something to behold.
    It’s obviously very grueling as well and to come back when you are losing takes incredible fortitude.

    Boxing to me though is for want of a better word… romantic.
    With the exception of scheduling (for those lucky enough to be considered as established fighters), boxing has all of the above with the added gladiatorial aspect.

  20. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Middleweight and below I think that's a fair call

    But some of the heavyweights are porkers
    You do heavyweight boxers a disservice Sludge. Even the ones who look over weight.
    The average man in the St would be blowing out of his arse after 30 secs of physical fighting, never mind 36 minutes.

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    some of the heavyweights are porkers
    Says the Curry King of Coychurch

  22. #47

    Re: Djokovic

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    I think you’d be hard pushed to find a more taxing game than top class singles tennis. I know boxers have to keep fit between bouts but these elite tennis players are on court, under pressure, on their own for hours on end day in, day out. One tournament ends and they’re off to another one. The amount of hours on court in competition, not counting practise and fitness training, when continually reaching semi finals & finals is mind boggling. The concentration levels must be off the scale. For fitness and constantly competing edges it over boxers for me. A top boxer may have to face comparable opposition for just over half an hour perhaps once or twice a year, a lot less if they’re finishing their bouts early, five hours they were on court yesterday after a fortnight’s battling to get there. Obviously no fun getting hit but and I don’t want to demean any boxer but it’s tennis players over them for me.
    “One tournament ends, and they’re off to another” That sentence alone proves to me that boxing is more challenging. If a boxer loses a world title fight, he may never get another chance. Tennis players can suffer lots of defeats, and still come back time after time to challenge for other titles.
    A boxers training camp leading up to an important fight, can be 3months of testing, gruelling , exercising, running, bag work and sparring. To fight for a possible 36 minutes, with a 1 min break between every 3 mins, you have to be one of the fittest athletes in sport.
    I do admire top class tennis players, but a boxer wins it for me any day of the week.

  23. #48

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    I don't think there is a right answer. I would make a case for cyclists though. This year's Tour de France is a case in point. At its head two fantastically well matched athletes way above anyone in the field trying (with team-mates) to grind each other down to attrition. The psychology and the physical attrition is like watching marathon runners playing chess.

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    Says the Curry King of Coychurch
    *Kebab, I think.

  25. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    You do heavyweight boxers a disservice Sludge. Even the ones who look over weight.
    The average man in the St would be blowing out of his arse after 30 secs of physical fighting, never mind 36 minutes.
    Absolutely no doubt about it , it must be utterly exhausting

    The likes of Marvin Hagler were incredible physical specimens , sugar Ray Leonard, eubank , very fit men

    But the sluggers don't remind me of sportsmen

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