Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
Self righteous rant? Hardly. It's called defending myself and holding you to account for hysterical claims of imminent fascism, which again you don't seem to understand that if your portrayal is right then no one would be arriving here. But you arent right. The UK is not some imminent fascist state or remotely close to it. If you actually cared for such matters you would speak out against people like Sludge who in the last month has said "Tories should be scared" and "Liquidated". Pretty certain you were kinda cool with a democratic vote being overiden when it suited too, so not sure you are best places to judge. But you don't really care do you? It's about the 'threat' of fascism and how only your thinking can prevent it. No different to the clowns who claimed Corbyn was a threat of communism.

So again your example of "evil" is the UK assisting to shore, housing and feeding tens of thousands of people who want to live in this "evil" govts state? Your example of "evil" is a legionella test that meant everyone was moved off site to safer accommodation? And then you site a mural being painted over, which I agree seems unnecessary but it's not the norm to have such things at border controls anywhere. Your definition of "evil" sure is a pretty low bar.

Have you actually seen how refugees around the world live? Frequently in tented accommodation at or close to warzones where legions of soldiers are more of a concern than legionella.

You talk of accommodation as if we should have tens of thousands of warm empty flats waiting for everyone but how would that work? Do we keep them empty for years on while we wait? What about homeless people here?

Hasn't Labour committed to keeping the Bobby Stockholm? Does that make them "evil" and by definition, you too?

Or in fact is that a ridiculous, hyperbolic phrase used to try and comprehend am incredibly complex situation?

Honestly, the way you guys throw around the word fascism as if this is remotely comparable to how fascists have treated their victims, you should be ashamed.

Jewish people were not fleeing into 1930s Germany. To compare the two situations is as preposterous as claiming that acting on a legionella outbreak is evil.

Get back in the real world!
And another rant.

Where have I said the Government are fascist or are soon going to become fascist, but, as Eric said, we might be on a slippery slope.

This has been posted on here before, but how many of the twelve categories listed do you think the UK Government can be regarded as completely not guilty of?

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/0...ns-of-fascism/

Being generous, I’d say 4,5,7 and 10 with two of them being definitely debatable. If you think any political party that “passes”, say, six of those tests are not going to at least be questioned as to their fascist credentials then I think you’re mistaken - of course, you’ll say that they don’t pass six of the tests, but I look forward to seeing how you explain why points 1,2,3, 8, 9 and 12 do not apply to the Government.

My definition of evil is clearly different to yours, but your habit of thinking your take on any subject should be an end to any debate is being seen in all of its glory in this thread - you’re hardly living up to your self proclaimed tendency to be even handed in your assessments.