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Thread: About time we had a rugby World Cup thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    You should know by now that Sludge is a self appointed expert on every topic under the sun.
    Well it's not difficult to put you in your box

  2. #77

    Re: About time we had a rugby World Cup thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well it's not difficult to put you in your box
    I just can’t be bothered getting into a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

  3. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    The professionals at the top of the game are the reason why
    so many players are developing dementia from all these power hits

    The only professionals of any note in this are the medical experts who are pressing for the game to be radically changed

    I hope you are bright enough to realise that
    The professionals wrote this about dementia. When you get to the bit with tackles at the waist, give me a nudge.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-tells-players

  4. #79

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    That was an excellent performance by England with a man down

    The bitter jealousy by the taffies is all over
    social media today and its laughable

    England are boring , Argentina were rubbish etc etc

    😂

    If a Wales team with 14 men had controlled a game and seen it through like that they would have been calling for a national day of celebration for our brave boys

  5. #80

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The professionals wrote this about dementia. When you get to the bit with tackles at the waist, give me a nudge.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-tells-players
    Please don't insult the deteriorating health of the large number of ex professionals with a diagnosis of dementia by suggesting a few too many beers has caused brain function decline rather than traumatic collision

    Boxing , Rugby , American football etc

    This isn't a dictat by the BMA , it's a couple of doctors and of course it's been picked up by Bill Beaumont and others who clearly have a vested interest in all this

    If you seem convinced these players are blaming their dementia on collisions instead of the real causes .....6 pints in the clubhouse .....then I think you should write to their lawyers , pronto

  6. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Please don't insult the deteriorating health of the large number of ex professionals with a diagnosis of dementia by suggesting a few too many beers has caused brain function decline rather than traumatic collision

    Boxing , Rugby , American football etc

    This isn't a dictat by the BMA , it's a couple of doctors and of course it's been picked up by Bill Beaumont and others who clearly have a vested interest in all this

    If you seem convinced these players are blaming their dementia on collisions instead of the real causes .....6 pints in the clubhouse .....then I think you should write to their lawyers , pronto
    Lardy isn't insulting anyone, neither are the Doctors-consultants quoted in the Article. They're just saying that it there may well be other factors that can contribute towards the health of the brain deteriorating. They're not saying that their opinion is final, they're saying that it could be a bit more complex than people think.

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    My concern is based on the view that as players get bigger, it follows that collisions potentially get more dangerous, so the risk of brain damage gets greater. People talk about “punch drunk” boxers and I’d say it’s generally accepted that the repeated blows to the head a boxer who fights over a long career takes can lead to problems in later life, but I wonder if any research has been done into what the breakdown by weight is of fighters with brain damage? If I’m right about rugby injuries, you’d think heavyweight boxers would be the ones most affected - if they’re not, then I could be wrong about rugby head injuries.

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    Re: About time we had a rugby World Cup thread?

    Why arn't teams playing in their traditional colours......when there is no clash.
    eg France v NZ
    South Africa v Scotland

    ..even really England v Argentina

    ...will Wales play in red this evening?

  9. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    Why arn't teams playing in their traditional colours......when there is no clash.
    eg France v NZ
    South Africa v Scotland

    ..even really England v Argentina

    ...will Wales play in red this evening?
    Partly to help those with colour blindness I think, so they try to have 1 team in a light coloured kit and 1 in a dark kit. In a year or 2 Wales v Ireland won't be red v green anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Partly to help those with colour blindness I think, so they try to have 1 team in a light coloured kit and 1 in a dark kit. In a year or 2 Wales v Ireland won't be red v green anymore.
    Not sure about that as the shorts would be different...The SA colours are horrible and don't SEEM like SA..>!

  11. #86

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    Watched the first game, Englands and the jocks, and its a bit of a kick-and-chase fest.

    I have grown up with rugby but if you are trying to sell the game to a wider public it is boring, stop, stop and a few more of a stop game with so many rules you need to be a local government officer or a solicitor to enjoy the pedantry of the rule book

    If its your game you love it, but its a niche minority sport with enough old-school tie products to ensure it's kept in the publics mind.

    Football starts next week, wonder how viewing figure will fair then?

  12. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post
    Watched the first game, Englands and the jocks, and its a bit of a kick-and-chase fest.

    I have grown up with rugby but if you are trying to sell the game to a wider public it is boring, stop, stop and a few more of a stop game with so many rules you need to be a local government officer or a solicitor to enjoy the pedantry of the rule book

    If its your game you love it, but its a niche minority sport with enough old-school tie products to ensure it's kept in the publics mind.

    Football starts next week, wonder how viewing figure will fair then?
    100% agree. Gave up watching rugby union a few years back for the reasons you gave. I did watch some of the rugby league world cup games and found it much more enjoyable.

  13. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Lardy isn't insulting anyone, neither are the Doctors-consultants quoted in the Article. They're just saying that it there may well be other factors that can contribute towards the health of the brain deteriorating. They're not saying that their opinion is final, they're saying that it could be a bit more complex than people think.
    Rubbish

    I could fill a reply with hundreds of articles including many by highly qualified doctors that argue there is definitive link between the brutal side of rugby and the increasing diagnosis of early onset dementia

    I can't be arsed

  14. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    100% agree. Gave up watching rugby union a few years back for the reasons you gave. I did watch some of the rugby league world cup games and found it much more enjoyable.
    I quite enjoy union but league I find so boring until there is an overlap and a scoring chance appears

    The six tackle is so monotonous in my view

  15. #90

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    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post
    Watched the first game, Englands and the jocks, and its a bit of a kick-and-chase fest.

    I have grown up with rugby but if you are trying to sell the game to a wider public it is boring
    If rugby has become a game of kicking the ball as high and as far away as aimlessly as possible, Sludge will be glued to it!

  16. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    My concern is based on the view that as players get bigger, it follows that collisions potentially get more dangerous, so the risk of brain damage gets greater. People talk about “punch drunk” boxers and I’d say it’s generally accepted that the repeated blows to the head a boxer who fights over a long career takes can lead to problems in later life, but I wonder if any research has been done into what the breakdown by weight is of fighters with brain damage? If I’m right about rugby injuries, you’d think heavyweight boxers would be the ones most affected - if they’re not, then I could be wrong about rugby head injuries.
    Your wide of the mark with the comparison Bob.

    Boxers throw less punches as you go up the divisions.

    A heavyweight boxer wouldnt take the same amount of punches as a lower weight fighter.

    What is comparable though is someone doesnt have the same cardiovascular fitness with the weight and muscle they put on.

    Its insane that a simple rule of reducing the number of subs to say 3 hasnt been introduced. Loads of these giant robots cant last 60 minutes and some probably less than that. They know it as well. If players had to last the full 80 theyd have to lose muscle mass.

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    Re: About time we had a rugby World Cup thread?

    Not a good idea having choirs singing the anthems, the Welsh anthem murdered.

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    Not a good idea having choirs singing the anthems, the Welsh anthem murdered.
    Unbelievably bad.

  19. #94

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
    Not a good idea having choirs singing the anthems, the Welsh anthem murdered.
    There hasn't been a decent anthem yet.

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    There hasn't been a decent anthem yet.
    It’s not working, although it took a century to get the football crowd singing it in unison.

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    very intense game

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    Re: About time we had a rugby World Cup thread?

    Wales did very well to get in at half time still in the lead

    Biggar fuming they didn't put the ball out there and rightly so. Been some strange decisions from Wales in this one

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    Re: About time we had a rugby World Cup thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Wales did very well to get in at half time still in the lead

    Biggar fuming they didn't put the ball out there and rightly so. Been some strange decisions from Wales in this one

    Desperately trying to get LRZ on the ball but safety 1st was the play, Biggar was right to be annoyed.

  24. #99

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    Bigger was right,but if I was a teammate of his, I’d be asking about his tackling for the first try and he’s missed two kicks now (one of those was quite easy).

    Can’t see us winning this unless we win about thirty per cent more ball than we did in the first half.

  25. #100

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    I think Wales have managed this well. The win should be safe follwowing that yellow/try. Been a decent game.

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