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Thread: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

  1. #26

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I’ll ask again. Mozzer said Bulut’s style of play has been a hit with the fans. So what’s his style of play?
    in a very basic way flooding the midfield and playing through the midfield .

    so may players getting forward and into scoring positions yesterday like the brum game

    the down side is we appear to be caught time and time again when sides over load our flanks . don't want to sound like a stuck record our left back position is of concern . Notice Bulut making noises about this or in his words the left side after the game yesterday

    if thats the case Bulut really needs to address this . Will be interesting to see how we shape up at the back in our next 2 games

    we got the entertainment value but needs the 3 points too !!

  2. #27

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Thing is, the side seems to be playing much better away (although not getting results) and the tactics seem to have involved a lot of counter-attacking. The two home games have seen poor performances against poor sides and City have been ponderous in their build-up play to put it kindly.

    I don’t know what Bulut’s style is yet and I’d be surprised if anyone else really does. There hasn’t been enough evidence of a consistent method.

  3. #28

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Thing is, the side seems to be playing much better away (although not getting results) and the tactics seem to have involved a lot of counter-attacking. The two home games have seen poor performances against poor sides and City have been ponderous in their build-up play to put it kindly.

    I don’t know what Bulut’s style is yet and I’d be surprised if anyone else really does. There hasn’t been enough evidence of a consistent method.
    One style seems consistent - after going 2-0 up away from home, we've conceded within 10 minutes. In fact, the stats read after 10, 5, 2 and 7 minutes.

  4. #29

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Thing is, the side seems to be playing much better away (although not getting results) and the tactics seem to have involved a lot of counter-attacking. The two home games have seen poor performances against poor sides and City have been ponderous in their build-up play to put it kindly.

    I don’t know what Bulut’s style is yet and I’d be surprised if anyone else really does. There hasn’t been enough evidence of a consistent method.
    There's isn't anything that defines his style of play. One thing that i am certain of though is we aren't very good under pressure, when the opposition start ramping it up and start pushing us back. The players lack concentration, discipline, composure, and that's as a unit. Bulut needs to turn that around, and sharpish as well, it's on him and his coaching staff.

    Players are getting an easy ride though. We are making basic errors that lead to goals. How the manager can sort that it is difficult. Players know their jobs, they should know what is expected of them at different stages of a game or in different situations, and some of them are fluffing it. Is it confidence, self belief, or is it that some of them just can't cope when the screw is turned.

    From what i have seen, we allow teams on, the midfield and forward players don't do enough to defend a lead, they're not working hard enough at breaking up play or at least disrupting it further up the pitch. Then it gets messy at the back, it gets tight, clumsy, desperate. Bulut has to work out a way to stop this from happening. We are better going forward because we have better players at going forward, they're not so sharp at getting organised and defending a lead.

  5. #30

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    What’s his style of play?
    you getting it yet ?

  6. #31

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Don’t want to be negative because I’m not really, but I don’t get this best transfer window in years stuff. Maybe in a month’s time when we’ve played something like the ten games everyone talks about then yes, such a claim may seem valid, but, for now, we can’t go claiming how brilliantly we’ve done when we’ve not played a game since the window closed.

    So far, we’ve had a lucky win over a side without a point, played well at Leicester where we should have drawn by rights, were foiled by a last minute goal at Leeds (in truth we were hanging throughout the second half at Elland Road) and stank the Place against a poor QPR team. If we lose today (far from unlikely given how Ipswich have done over the past year), we’ll have four points from five games - relegation for if repeated over the course of a forty six game season.

    On Tuesday we gave what was easily our best performance so far with a shadow team based mostly on players who were with us before the transfer window opened - we’d have more than four points if we had played like that in all of our league games. I think we look stronger than we were last season, but, at the moment, I’m guessing hence why I’m not going to start proclaiming how great our transfer window was yet.
    would you say a decent transfer window now or giving it more games before getting on the bulut train ?

  7. #32

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Yes, I'm being won around and I think I make that clear in my blog post on the game.

    As for Bulut's style, I thought it was very much counter attacking last night and I notice that Mark Robins had one or two complimentary things to say about us, for example that we have a lot of pace in the team. For me, this is the main reason we are so much more dangerous going forward, while I think the competition we have in midfield is bringing out more in players like Wintle (who did well playing in an unfamiliar more attacking role) and Ralls. Collins is also a good player at this level, Sakamoto was a tricky opponent for him in the last forty minutes or so, but, overall, he coped well with him - Bulut is also getting the best out of McGuinness who I'd rate our currrent player of the season.

  8. #33

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    you getting it yet ?
    Fair play, you're getting funnier as you get older.

    When Erol Bulut was appointed, you were excited by what you believed was his background in Futsal, although in fact he only played in one Futsal tournment for Turkey right at the end of his playing career when he was in his late-thirties. Nevertheless, the 'Futsal background' line is one you've repeated several times since.

    In June, you boldly predicted we'd see an influx of players from Spain and Portugal as a result of Bulut's alleged Futsal roots, but that obviously didn't happen. You also claimed your 'research' had revealed that Bulut's team would produce "a high-intensity Futsal style of football like nothing we have ever experienced at Cardiff before..."

    By the time we'd got to late-August, you were saying you had believed all along that Bulut would be "looking to play a more expansive game," whatever that meant.

    Earlier this month, you said you thought Bulut's preferred style of play involved "flooding the midfield and playing through the midfield," whatever that meant.

    Now you're asking me if I'm getting it yet, although you haven't said what 'it' is. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

  9. #34

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Fair play, you're getting funnier as you get older.

    When Erol Bulut was appointed, you were excited by what you believed was his background in Futsal, although in fact he only played in one Futsal tournment for Turkey right at the end of his playing career when he was in his late-thirties. Nevertheless, the 'Futsal background' line is one you've repeated several times since.

    In June, you boldly predicted we'd see an influx of players from Spain and Portugal as a result of Bulut's alleged Futsal roots, but that obviously didn't happen. You also claimed your 'research' had revealed that Bulut's team would produce "a high-intensity Futsal style of football like nothing we have ever experienced at Cardiff before..."

    By the time we'd got to late-August, you were saying you had believed all along that Bulut would be "looking to play a more expansive game," whatever that meant.

    Earlier this month, you said you thought Bulut's preferred style of play involved "flooding the midfield and playing through the midfield," whatever that meant.

    Now you're asking me if I'm getting it yet, although you haven't said what 'it' is. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
    It's a mixture of 'football' and long ball (Diagonals seem a favourite) And the wide players stay wide. That's about it i reckon, nothing too complicated. Oh, and give the ball to Ramsey at any given opportunity. Because he's good.

  10. #35

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Fair play, you're getting funnier as you get older.

    When Erol Bulut was appointed, you were excited by what you believed was his background in Futsal, although in fact he only played in one Futsal tournment for Turkey right at the end of his playing career when he was in his late-thirties. Nevertheless, the 'Futsal background' line is one you've repeated several times since.

    In June, you boldly predicted we'd see an influx of players from Spain and Portugal as a result of Bulut's alleged Futsal roots, but that obviously didn't happen. You also claimed your 'research' had revealed that Bulut's team would produce "a high-intensity Futsal style of football like nothing we have ever experienced at Cardiff before..."

    By the time we'd got to late-August, you were saying you had believed all along that Bulut would be "looking to play a more expansive game," whatever that meant.

    Earlier this month, you said you thought Bulut's preferred style of play involved "flooding the midfield and playing through the midfield," whatever that meant.

    Now you're asking me if I'm getting it yet, although you haven't said what 'it' is. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
    i guess not

  11. #36

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    i guess not
    Quite. You saw the word 'Futsal' on Bulut's Wiki page and got so excited that you're already predicting he'll prove to be the best City manager in 30 years, while your preconceived notions about how he'd set up his side have led to you using a variety of football cliches, none of which reflect the reality of the football we're actually watching.

    Tuesday's performance was really encouraging and I reckon it was the most enjoyable Championship contest we've seen at the CCS for quite some time in terms of the quality of the football from both sides. It was good stuff all round and a marked contrast from the previous three home games, during which the quality had generally been poor. Hopefully, it was a sign of things to come.

  12. #37

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Yes, I'm being won around and I think I make that clear in my blog post on the game.

    As for Bulut's style, I thought it was very much counter attacking last night and I notice that Mark Robins had one or two complimentary things to say about us, for example that we have a lot of pace in the team. For me, this is the main reason we are so much more dangerous going forward, while I think the competition we have in midfield is bringing out more in players like Wintle (who did well playing in an unfamiliar more attacking role) and Ralls. Collins is also a good player at this level, Sakamoto was a tricky opponent for him in the last forty minutes or so, but, overall, he coped well with him - Bulut is also getting the best out of McGuinness who I'd rate our currrent player of the season.
    I think McGuiness has been excellent for us, with Siopis not far behind. IMHO its having someone like Siopis in the team that has given us a dimension to our play that we've not had for many a year. When was the last time we had an effective player in front of the back four? Medel in the first half of the season maybe?

  13. #38

    Re: True to his word - June 5'th 2023

    Quote Originally Posted by HiVis View Post
    I think McGuiness has been excellent for us, with Siopis not far behind. IMHO its having someone like Siopis in the team that has given us a dimension to our play that we've not had for many a year. When was the last time we had an effective player in front of the back four? Medel in the first half of the season maybe?
    Medel was stationary though, sort of played along the line as opposed to getting involved in play. I agree with you, Siopis has been a breath of fresh air. Always making himself available for the ball, offers support and angles and moves the ball quickly.

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