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Thread: 40 Killed In Hamas Attacks In Israel

  1. #326

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    Israel told Palestinians to move south

    Yesterday they bombed the area they had told the Palestinians to move to

    I wonder if Rishi Sunack and Starmer will be commenting on that ?

  2. #327

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  3. #328

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/s...tvuxwsFgA&s=19


    this is crazy - can you imagine the same questions being asked of an MP in this country who happened to be of Jewish descent
    This guy seems to be a Palestinian activist, which is absolutely fine, but it does mean he perhaps chose when to cut off the audio on that video. It's clumsy wording, but the question of whether people anticipated a big attack is not entirely unreasonable. I anticipate one in the UK to be honest, based on the febrile nature of this debate.

    Her family is Christian too, from what I can work out, so it's not like he's asking something of someone of Muslim descent as opposed to Jewish descent, which the guy on twitter was probably hoping.

    Clumsy yeah but doesn't strike me as a major incident.

  4. #329

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    This guy seems to be a Palestinian activist, which is absolutely fine, but it does mean he perhaps chose when to cut off the audio on that video. It's clumsy wording, but the question of whether people anticipated a big attack is not entirely unreasonable. I anticipate one in the UK to be honest, based on the febrile nature of this debate.

    Her family is Christian too, from what I can work out, so it's not like he's asking something of someone of Muslim descent as opposed to Jewish descent, which the guy on twitter was probably hoping.

    Clumsy yeah but doesn't strike me as a major incident.
    if you asked a prominent British Jewish person if they knew it was going to happen then next time some Israeli settlers murder people in Gaza or the west bank there would rightly be outrage.

  5. #330

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    if you asked a prominent British Jewish person if they knew it was going to happen then next time some Israeli settlers murder people in Gaza or the west bank there would rightly be outrage.
    I think if you asked anyone that at the moment whether there will be violent attacks in the next 24 hours in Gaza then I think everyone would say, yes there will.

    Quite obviously Madeley was not accusing Layla Morans family of having secret insider knowledge of the terrorist attack that they kept to themselves. This is where twitter takes us further away from peace rather than closer to it, with outrage and video footage that is conveniently cut at certain points.

  6. #331

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    I see the 'not targeting civilians' is going well as they bomb a hospital and hundreds die. They need to be stopped, we can moan about Sunak or Starmer but this appears to be up to America at this point.

    This is not Israel defending itself and was never about that.

    Politicians and media on the outside need to be pragmatic, stop trying to gain their 'im not antisemitic' scouts badge and hold Israel to account.

  7. #332

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I think if you asked anyone that at the moment whether there will be violent attacks in the next 24 hours in Gaza then I think everyone would say, yes there will.

    Quite obviously Madeley was not accusing Layla Morans family of having secret insider knowledge of the terrorist attack that they kept to themselves. This is where twitter takes us further away from peace rather than closer to it, with outrage and video footage that is conveniently cut at certain points.
    It was accusatory because had Leila Moran any prior knowledge of the attack then, particularly as a British MP, she would have been honour bound to have alerted the authorities. In fact there is very likely also a legal duty to do so.

    She effected no such alert so any reasonable person would conclude she had no prior knowledge of the attack. The question was a nasty insinuation. But given it was Richard Madeley interrogating I would just put it down to gross stupidity.

  8. #333

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I think if you asked anyone that at the moment whether there will be violent attacks in the next 24 hours in Gaza then I think everyone would say, yes there will.

    Quite obviously Madeley was not accusing Layla Morans family of having secret insider knowledge of the terrorist attack that they kept to themselves. This is where twitter takes us further away from peace rather than closer to it, with outrage and video footage that is conveniently cut at certain points.
    Madeley is basically just a harmless idiot. There is something so western/1st world about watching Hamas massacre Israelis and Israel flatten Palestine and for that to trigger nothing but the same old arguments about language, half of media coverage seems to be that. I made the big mistake of watching politics live the other day and it was 40 minutes of everybody spinning and telling each other to condemn themselves and apologise, all the while innocent people are taking their last breath.

  9. #334

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    But given it was Richard Madeley interrogating I would just put it down to gross stupidity.
    She took it as such as well, tbf she was switched onto robotic MP 'dont upset israel' setting so I think it went over her head.

  10. #335

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    Well if this attack is confirmed and 500 people have been killed in a feck ing hospital then Biden , Sunak , Starmer and the rest of the soppy tarts have got to tell Israel that's the end of the show

    They have told Palestinians to move and they have bombed them in the safe place they have moved to

    And now this ?

    They are the best army in the world ? Precision guided rockets ?

    Precision guided right into the operating theatre!

    Netanyahu what a cnnt

  11. #336

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well if this attack is confirmed and 500 people have been killed in a feck ing hospital then Biden , Sunak , Starmer and the rest of the soppy tarts have got to tell Israel that's the end of the show

    They have told Palestinians to move and they have bombed them in the safe place they have moved to

    And now this ?

    They are the best army in the world ? Precision guided rockets ?

    Precision guided right into the operating theatre!

    Netanyahu what a cnnt
    sickening.
    Israeli sympathisers on twitter saying it was a failed Hamas rocket

  12. #337

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    sickening.
    Israeli sympathisers on twitter saying it was a failed Hamas rocket
    The BBC are reporting that Israeli sources are saying its a possible jihad or hamas strike

    A failed rocket launch from inside gaza

    Wtf

  13. #338

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    The BBC are reporting that Israeli sources are saying its a possible jihad or hamas strike

    A failed rocket launch from inside gaza

    Wtf
    Yeah not buying that for one second

  14. #339

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    sickening.
    Israeli sympathisers on twitter saying it was a failed Hamas rocket
    Straight out of Putins playbook isnt it? No it wasnt us. Of course it bloody was.

  15. #340

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    Straight out of Putin’s playbook isn’t it? No it wasn’t us. Of course it bloody was.
    there's a lot of conflicting information on both sides for a number of incidents these last few days.

  16. #341

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    Straight out of Putins playbook isnt it? No it wasnt us. Of course it bloody was.
    The destructive power of the missile is reminiscent of Israeli weaponry i.e. a large building flattened in a single strike. Does Hamas have such powerful weapons?

  17. #342

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    Sometimes I think Israel's leadership is devoid of intelligence. They bask in the support given to them for a horrific attack upon their citizens then they blow it all away with their all consuming bloodlust. Sickening.

  18. #343

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    Who said

    "This is a struggle between the children of light and the children of darkness, between humanity and the law of the jungle."?

    Seems it was the man in charge of Israel (what happened to his corruption charges?) in a Tweet that has since been deleted.

    Regarding the bombing of the hospital, I wouldn't put anything beyond Hamas, but, realistically, who is the more likely party to be guilty of this disgraceful act? I know who I believe it was and will continue to do so until it is proven otherwise.

  19. #344

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    The destructive power of the missile is reminiscent of Israeli weaponry i.e. a large building flattened in a single strike. Does Hamas have such powerful weapons?
    Israel are saying that a stray rocket from Hamas accidentally ignited a store of rockets under the hospital

  20. #345

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Israel are saying that a stray rocket from Hamas accidentally ignited a store of rockets under the hospital
    It's very difficult to know what is real and what isn't. A number of video sources of the explosion on Twitter have been proved to be old videos. I saw a convincing comparison of a video which claimed to be of the explosion and a confirmed video of a us made missile that Israel is in possession of and the sounds before and during were identical, but maybe this was an old video.

    All sorts of theories flying around Twitter that sound more plausible than a Hamas rocket breaking up in the sky and somehow having such a devastating impact on the ground because it happened to touch down on a weapon store or oxygen tank.

  21. #346

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    Joe Biden touches down in Israel

    Netanyahu all over him like a rash

    I would be very surprised if anything comes from this apart from the usual

    If Israel is not responsible then at the very least the ridiculous bombing of Gaza must surely be held back for everybody's sake not least the poor people living there

    If Israel are not responsible are they going to start up all over again as it was them , not us ?!

  22. #347

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    The idf spokesperson calling out hamas for their media strategy whilst he himself is giving a press conference watched by the world is quite ridiculous. Whatever people believe, the idea that Hamas have more sway in the international community and world media than Israel is laughable.

  23. #348

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    Who knows what happened. The obvious answer is it was an Israeli attack but every chance it wasn't. But reading the quote from Hamas referring to Israel committing a war crime was quite something.

  24. #349

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    America stands with Israel

    They need to understand they can have whatever they need to defend themselves

    Well there we go then

    Turn out the lights

  25. #350

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    America stands with Israel

    They need to understand they can have whatever they need to defend themselves

    Well there we go then

    Turn out the lights
    The US is complicit in this carnage. It's harrowing stuff.

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