Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
I think thats debatable tbh, although I don't doubt the huge positive changes that parts of socialist ideology bought about in the last couple of centuries in terms of welfare etc. But socialism and spending govt money on welfare aren't the same thing. If so then the UK is a deeply socialist country at the moment as we've never taxed and spent more.
Ooh, here we go.

NHS was brought about by socialism. I know that in the early 20th century miners would pay out of their wages to help support other miners, build fantastic buildings such as workingmen's halls etc. Socialism is nothing more than everybody contributing a little so everyone can benefit. It's about everyone pulling together as communities etc. Right wing mantra is everyone for themselves. The Conservatives would love to do this but the devastation that would be left is unthinkable.

Welfare has become a very different thing. Most people on welfare work. It's a subsidy for companies who pay crap wages. The living wage is shit.

We've had 13 years of Tories cutting taxes and spending and we're seeing more and more the disastrous consequences of it.