Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
The problem is that Hamas disappear, but new groups emerge. There is a long history of Islamic extremism now, not helped by proxy Shia/Sunni conflicts, Iran, Saudi Arabia and all the rest of it.

What, I guess, Israel wants is to so brutally eliminate Hamas that no one would want to bring it upon themselves to wish to be ruled by them again. Whether that works or not is up for debate, but I'm sceptical. How many of us have ever known peace in the middle east?

For me it's hard to see peace in the wider region while Iran is the theocracy that it is and also whilst we don't have a proper two-state solution to Palestine and Israel (thats why the river to the sea chant matters..it takes us further from peace) - Israel isn't going anywhere, that needs to be accepted and so too is Palestine. It could be wiped off the map, but that woul rightly provoke such outrage that a war of annihilation would surely follow?

The irony is that whilst the wider middle east is in its usual state of unease, it has never been richer or had more influence globally - the Qatar and Saudi world cups help demonstrate that.

What needs to happen? For me, the complete destruction of Hamas, followed by a global effort much like the post WW2 era to build a proper and viable two party state - Israel withdrawing from the west bank etc, some kind of transport link from the West Bank to Gaza, I dunno, but things can't carry on like this.
Well that's not going to work

Further attacks on gaza in the hunt for hamas will lead to more martyrs and future generations wanting to kill Israelis

We need a UN peace keeping force and a two state solution

And the acceptance that its always going to be a area of bloody conflict , even after a homeland for the Palestinians

Blowing the bejesus out of gaza in the vain hope it will kill all the terrorists is just playing silly soldier games