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Thread: FT: CARDIFF CITY 2 - 3 NORWICH CITY: Match thread

  1. #151

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    I thought Robinson was our best player but I still thought it was a good idea to sub him for Colwill who I expected to play just well. I was wrong.

  2. #152

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 2 - 3 NORWICH CITY: Match thread

    I thought we were way too passive against a struggling team, similar to the QPR game. I dont understand why we didnt get at them from the start rather than allow them to have the ball.

  3. #153

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesp View Post
    I thought we were way too passive against a struggling team, similar to the QPR game. I dont understand why we didnt get at them from the start rather than allow them to have the ball.
    I'd agree with that assessment. We looked happy to give the ball away and let them play- Norwich were first to every loose ball or 50/50.

    We have ground out wins recently, without being great, relying on a solid defence. The defence went to pieces today and we got what we deserved.

  4. #154

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    We just couldn't hold onto the ball up top, Meite is nowhere near a championship "9". As soon as he or Etete are against decent physical centre halfs we struggle especially at home where teams can put men in the middle.

    I agree with the Ralls sub, she may have given him a second yellow at any time, she has a high red card history.

    Meite tires against big centre halfs

    And Robinson barely chases when fresh.

    Tanner and Rubin may benifit from a half-season loan, especially when Rambo, O'Dowda are back and if we get a few starters in over the window

  5. #155

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    E WERE AWFUL, ESPECIALLY SECOND HALF, SO NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE RESULT...

    but...

    What an abysmal display by the ref!!!

  6. #156

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    We were also totally outplayed in midfield, not a great game from Siopsis. They changed their full backs at half time, changed shape in midfield and totally dominated. Weve lost twice now at home this season to struggling sides!
    4 pts behind us..hardly struggling

  7. #157

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    Quote Originally Posted by D. Advocaat View Post
    I'd agree with that assessment. We looked happy to give the ball away and let them play- Norwich were first to every loose ball or 50/50.

    We have ground out wins recently, without being great, relying on a solid defence. The defence went to pieces today and we got what we deserved.
    I think until further squad strengthening we will have games like today. Dont get me wrong Id much prefer what weve seen so far this season to the last few seasons.

  8. #158

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    Quote Originally Posted by llan bluebird View Post
    We just couldn't hold onto the ball up top, Meite is nowhere near a championship "9". As soon as he or Etete are against decent physical centre halfs we struggle especially at home where teams can put men in the middle.

    I agree with the Ralls sub, she may have given him a second yellow at any time, she has a high red card history.

    Meite tires against big centre halfs

    And Robinson barely chases when fresh.

    Tanner and Rubin may benifit from a half-season loan, especially when Rambo, O'Dowda are back and if we get a few starters in over the window
    If anything, the ref has a low red card count

    https://www.soccerbase.com/referees/...&season_id=156

    But it’s hard to see how when you see some of the things she gave yellows for today.

  9. #159

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    Bowler is ripping them to bits, I know, I’ll take him off, Robinson is causing them some right mischief, I know I’ll take him off. Players can play for 90 minutes y’know Erol. No need to change to try and look tactically clever.

  10. #160

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Bowler is ripping them to bits, I know, Ill take him off, Robinson is causing them some right mischief, I know Ill take him off. Players can play for 90 minutes yknow Erol. No need to change to try and look tactically clever.
    uh oh..somebody questioned the managers decision making and frame of mind for the job

    p.s you are spot on.

    p.p.s the stoke game is the ONLY match so far where bulut didnt hide away in his shell...i had high hopes for this match.

  11. #161

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    Joe ralls did not get a yellow card!

  12. #162

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Bowler is ripping them to bits, I know, Ill take him off, Robinson is causing them some right mischief, I know Ill take him off. Players can play for 90 minutes yknow Erol. No need to change to try and look tactically clever.
    Were either of the players you mentioned causing problems in the lead up to them coming off? was anyone? Bulut puts on Tanner, who people call for regularly on here when we need that forward thinking impetus, And Colwill, who has done very well the last few times he has come on around the same time during a game, And Wintle as the insurance in front of the back 3. I wouldn't say that Bulut was taking a risk with those three players, in fact, it could be seen as a positive move. The fact that the three of them were complete shite and offered the sum of zero isn't really the managers fault. That's three players who couldn't adapt or make an impact. We can blame the manager when he deserves to be blamed, on this occasion i don't think he does.

  13. #163

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesp View Post
    I thought we were way too passive against a struggling team, similar to the QPR game. I don’t understand why we didn’t get at them from the start rather than allow them to have the ball.
    Could not agree more. Take the bloody game by the scruff of the neck. Show some intent. Same as Watford. 2 teams in woeful form when we played them. Played them both back into form over the course of 90 mins.

  14. #164

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    Dust has settled now and I put it down to a bad day at the office. Subs could have been better, I wouldnt have taken Robbo off, and I would have changed Romeo, but the players have to take some responsibility.

    On the bright side, even when we lose,we usually score 2. And we tend to win and perform well more than we lose and perform badly, so Im not too bothered. Such an improvement on the past 5 odd years.

    Siopis had an off day, and Erol will sort them out. Just a shame theres a break, you wanna play again asap after a game like this.

  15. #165

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueArmy 86 View Post
    Dust has settled now and I put it down to a bad day at the office. Subs could have been better, I wouldn’t have taken Robbo off, and I would have changed Romeo, but the players have to take some responsibility.

    On the bright side, even when we lose,we usually score 2. And we tend to win and perform well more than we lose and perform badly, so I’m not too bothered. Such an improvement on the past 5 odd years.

    Siopis had an off day, and Erol will sort them out. Just a shame there’s a break, you wanna play again asap after a game like this.
    Romeo for who? Adams? Or changed the shape?

  16. #166

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    Come January we need a right back. Romeo is league one standard no offense to him.

  17. #167

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    Romeo for who? Adams? Or changed the shape?
    Quite.

    He should have come off as he was a liability and Norwich clearly targeted that side, but for who?

  18. #168

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    How the hell does Grant stay on. He produces nothing. We watched them waltz around from start to finish apart from a certain period in the first half. There for the taking and failed again. That said they gave us more trouble than I can recall any other side at home this season.

  19. #169

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    Romeo for who? Adams? Or changed the shape?
    Adams aftwr an hour. Against tires legs, surely better bet than Romeo who didnt look fit enough to play 90

  20. #170

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Quite.

    He should have come off as he was a liability and Norwich clearly targeted that side, but for who?
    awful management not pluggingthat

  21. #171

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire View Post
    awful management not pluggingthat
    It was poor on Buluts part when is it SO obvious to everyone including the opposition obviously.

    Did he think that the problem would just go away?

  22. #172

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    Hindsight is wonderful

    I would have stuck panzo on but if we still had lost he would have had stick for not doing what he done.

    Conflicted on this game as it was obvious Romeo was struggling

  23. #173

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Bowler is ripping them to bits, I know, Ill take him off, Robinson is causing them some right mischief, I know Ill take him off. Players can play for 90 minutes yknow Erol. No need to change to try and look tactically clever.
    Robinson looked tired to me before he came off, had given the ball away a couple of times and was out of position when Norwich had the ball. I wasn't surprised when he came off. I don't get the Bowler sub though.

  24. #174

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Were either of the players you mentioned causing problems in the lead up to them coming off? was anyone? Bulut puts on Tanner, who people call for regularly on here when we need that forward thinking impetus, And Colwill, who has done very well the last few times he has come on around the same time during a game, And Wintle as the insurance in front of the back 3. I wouldn't say that Bulut was taking a risk with those three players, in fact, it could be seen as a positive move. The fact that the three of them were complete shite and offered the sum of zero isn't really the managers fault. That's three players who couldn't adapt or make an impact. We can blame the manager when he deserves to be blamed, on this occasion i don't think he does.
    That's harsh, none of them were worldbeating when they came on but at 2-1 Tanner and Colwill combined well with Colwill putting a great ball across the goal which neither Grant nor Meite went for. It was an easy tap in and should have been game over, but neither seem to have that killer instinct to go for those balls across. It was a theme yesterday and has been a few times this season where a winger has put the ball across the goal but nobody's gone for it, it's clearly a tactic because we do it so often but for whatever reason the forwards rarely seem to be alert to it.

    Wintle really is a step down from Ralls & Siopis, that own goal was ridiculous, but he completely lacks any kind of dynamism or a change of pace. I think we'll be looking for a midfielder in January

  25. #175

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    That's harsh, none of them were worldbeating when they came on but at 2-1 Tanner and Colwill combined well with Colwill putting a great ball across the goal which neither Grant nor Meite went for. It was an easy tap in and should have been game over, but neither seem to have that killer instinct to go for those balls across. It was a theme yesterday and has been a few times this season where a winger has put the ball across the goal but nobody's gone for it, it's clearly a tactic because we do it so often but for whatever reason the forwards rarely seem to be alert to it.

    Wintle really is a step down from Ralls & Siopis, that own goal was ridiculous, but he completely lacks any kind of dynamism or a change of pace. I think we'll be looking for a midfielder in January
    Yeah, fair enough, I was being harsh. Didn't make the impact required would be more suited. I still don't think that it's the managers fault that they didn't do what was required while they were out there, and the same for the players who were already on the field of play. What can he do when players aren't doing the basics correctly or not adapting too a turn in play?He can make the necessary changes, which he did, and it's worked well previously. Not yesterday. Forget about it is my opinion.

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