Quote Originally Posted by Heathblue View Post
A very measured response GB and much of what you say I'm 100% in agreement with, I have 2 children and 6 grand children and want the world to be a nice place for them including clean air and would back all / any controls that would help achieve fhis, what I'll not fall into line with is, having to listen to the world is dying every 5 years by the same individuals getting very rich whilst not practicing what they preach or at the very least actually prove the science of the religion they preach, stop indoctrinating kids in primary and junior schools.
I also have children (two) and grandchildren (five), so the future of civilisation on planet Earth is also quite an important topic for me too! Not so much for me myself as I am already well past the “three score years and ten” landmark, so my days are definitely numbered. (According to life insurance actuary tables I should have another 10 years apparently!).

When you say you “want the world to be a nice place for them including clean air and would back all / any controls that would help achieve this” I am a bit confused. If climate change is not man-made what possible controls can we put in place? We are not able to control the weather or prevent climate change if it is a natural event, so we are inevitably doomed surely? Or do you think that we can live through what's coming as it is not going to be as severe as predicted i.e. hotter summers, occasional droughts, wetter/milder winters? That's just a rather myopic U.K. perspective of course – the rest of the world could be in much bigger trouble with severe droughts or severe flooding, leading to mass starvation and mass emigration.

Looking on the bright side we may not have to worry about climate change at all if Putin defeats Ukraine then decides to take on a NATO country like Latvia or Belarus or the Middle East erupts into Armageddon.

Nuclear annihilation would sort out our sustainable energy worries quite quickly.