george galloway

[+ the native hipster]

labour, the ronny rosenthal of politics, no middle east ref intended

[Jordi Culé]

Re: george galloway

labour, the ronny rosenthal of politics, no middle east ref intended

One of his pledges to the good people of Rochdale is to get them a Primark. That must’ve been a massive vote winner.

I’ve been to Rochdale, I understand why it would be

[pipster]

Labour loses the Muslim vote in Rochdale as they vote in .... see attached video

Religion now deciding politics. It seems a mixture of socialist leaning voters plus the 30,000 ish Muslim vote have voted in a man that openly calls for the destruction of Israel - see video - and his audience.

Sir Keir must be feeling triumphant this morning as must some posters on here. Anti Semite 1 Others 0

[Eric Cartman]

Re: Labour loses the Muslim vote in Rochdale as they vote in .... see attached video

Sir Keir must be feeling triumphant this morning as must some posters on here

Why and who?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: george galloway

Starmer has been thrown a very difficult ball here , a hospital pass

Add in his complete and utter incompetence and that of his front bench and the psychotic cult like Galloway and its a right battering

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: george galloway

Reform UK ?

If there's any comfort out of this mess they flopped

[pipster]

Re: george galloway

Starmer has been thrown a very difficult ball here , a hospital pass

Add in his complete and utter incompetence and that of his front bench and the psychotic cult like Galloway and its a right battering

Starmer has been shafted - he cant be seen to be supporting Palestine in the way he and most of Labour have been - he will be labelled anti semite. If he doesnt come out and support Palestine / Hamas he will lose a large majority of votes in the red wall Asian seats - who lets be honest are pro Palestine and Anti Israel.

He will try and flip flop his way through this, just like he did with his pledge of 28 billion on green policies - and then dropped it all.
Interesting times ahead for the lawyer - Im sure his personality will erm guide him....

Reform - Sludge what percentage of the vote did Reform UK they get ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: george galloway

Starmer has been shafted - he cant be seen to be supporting Palestine in the way he and most of Labour have been - he will be labelled anti semite. If he doesnt come out and support Palestine / Hamas he will lose a large majority of votes in the red wall Asian seats - who lets be honest are pro Palestine and Anti Israel.

He will try and flip flop his way through this, just like he did with his pledge of 28 billion on green policies - and then dropped it all.
Interesting times ahead for the lawyer - Im sure his personality will erm guide him....

Reform - Sludge what percentage of the vote did Reform UK they get ?

Anyone who thinks Labour will get a decent majority is living on the moon

I predict a hung parliament with Labour having just about the most seats and forming either a minority government or a coalition

He's absolutely hopeless , the Labour party is hopeless and they have shot themselves in the foot again

[Eric Cartman]

Re: george galloway

Starmer has been shafted - he cant be seen to be supporting Palestine in the way he and most of Labour have been - he will be labelled anti semite. If he doesnt come out and support Palestine / Hamas he will lose a large majority of votes in the red wall Asian seats - who lets be honest are pro Palestine and Anti Israel.

He will try and flip flop his way through this, just like he did with his pledge of 28 billion on green policies - and then dropped it all.
Interesting times ahead for the lawyer - Im sure his personality will erm guide him....

Reform - Sludge what percentage of the vote did Reform UK they get ?

I think your analysis is being guided by what you want to happen. The overall picture still suggests Labour are going to hoover up a load of seats they lost in 2019 due to Brexit/Corbyn, and there isn't going to be a master grifter like Galloway standing in every seat.

I am not seeing what I want to see from labour in terms of policy/direction but I don't think Starmer could have handled this shitshow in Rochdale much better from a general election campaign POV.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: george galloway

Starmer has been shafted - he cant be seen to be supporting Palestine in the way he and most of Labour have been - he will be labelled anti semite. If he doesnt come out and support Palestine / Hamas he will lose a large majority of votes in the red wall Asian seats - who lets be honest are pro Palestine and Anti Israel.

He will try and flip flop his way through this, just like he did with his pledge of 28 billion on green policies - and then dropped it all.
Interesting times ahead for the lawyer - Im sure his personality will erm guide him....

Reform - Sludge what percentage of the vote did Reform UK they get ?

Reform 6 percent

Share of vote down by 2 percent

[Eric Cartman]

Re: george galloway

Anyone who thinks Labour will get a decent majority is living on the moon

I predict a hung parliament with Labour having just about the most seats and forming either a minority government or a coalition

He's absolutely hopeless , the Labour party is hopeless and they have shot themselves in the foot again

Sludge this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for you then. Tie up some capital for 6 months or so for a guaranteed 3x

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/politics/event/28265958/multi-market?marketIds=1.167249195

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Re: george galloway

I think your analysis is being guided by what you want to happen. The overall picture still suggests Labour are going to hoover up a load of seats they lost in 2019 due to Brexit/Corbyn, and there isn't going to be a master grifter like Galloway standing in every seat.

I am not seeing what I want to see from labour in terms of policy/direction but I don't think Starmer could have handled this shitshow in Rochdale much better from a general election campaign POV.

Sir Kneel and Labour will romp home in the G.E.

[Wales-Bales]

Re: george galloway

Sir Kneel and Labour will romp home in the G.E.

Capitalism is behind Keir.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: george galloway

I think your analysis is being guided by what you want to happen. The overall picture still suggests Labour are going to hoover up a load of seats they lost in 2019 due to Brexit/Corbyn, and there isn't going to be a master grifter like Galloway standing in every seat.

I am not seeing what I want to see from labour in terms of policy/direction but I don't think Starmer could have handled this shitshow in Rochdale much better from a general election campaign POV.

I think you want starmer to win fairly well , at least

But I really see a troublesome run in ......made more difficult by last night's events .....and I think it's going to be a very marginal win overall .......and by that I mean winning the most seats not winning a majority

The people affected by tory policies deserve better but with the labour party and starmer are bust

[Eric Cartman]

Re: george galloway

I think you want starmer to win fairly well , at least

But I really see a troublesome run in ......made more difficult by last night's events .....and I think it's going to be a very marginal win overall .......and by that I mean winning the most seats not winning a majority

The people affected by tory policies deserve better but with the labour party and starmer are bust

I want Starmer to win primarily because the Tories have dragged politics so far into the gutter over the last few years that they need to go. There were always scandals and politicians that were in it for themselves but the near daily dog whistle shit stirring and blatant lying is on another level. No guarantees that will improve but I have a feeling it will.

It's a struggle to see what labour party you want sludge. From memory you hated Corbyn and both the 2017/19 manifestos, now you hate the fact that they have a strategy to not commit to policy (because it tends to get picked apart in the press). Struggling to see what you mean when you say that people deserve better.

My political preference is absolutely not clouding my judgement here, all evidence points towards a decent sized labour win and suggestions that the Rochdale result is a sign of some massive shift or problem for Starmer are misguided based on everything else we are seeing. People have been saying the polls will tighten for 2 years now, they haven't, and now the same people are clinging to tiny events as if they are huge in desperation.