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Under these particular circumstances, none.Originally Posted by Robin Friday's Ghost
Apart from the Yanks most western educated countries are rejecting religion
It's no surprise that in poorly educated and poverty stricken areas religion still has a foothold
97 percent of scientists are not religious
Thank god
Unfortunately your denial is preventing you from looking OUTSIDE the Book, anyone who seriously does look at the evidence outside the Bible comes to the same conclusion as Gofer, Strobel, Morrison and McDowell, just to name a few.
There you go again, making claims you can't possibly prove.
Which god are you thanking?
So as you don't have any proof that Christ's body is still on earth, are you willing to consider the evidence from history found OUTSIDE the Bible?
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm pointing out that you aren't able to prove the things you believe.
Correction, you are hoping there is no proof to prove your position invalid.
Otherwise if you were confident your position was watertight, any further information would only verify your position and prove me wrong.
I'm really not. I don't have any interest in the subject and no particular knowledge of it. I've simply pointed out that every "fact" that you've offered is nothing of the sort. For example, the "proof" you offered for the resurrection adds up to "well what else could have happened?". That isn't proof.
Anyway I'm off kayaking on the Wye. Enjoy your day and your faith.
Having watched Robin Friday, someone who didn't back down from any challenge, I think you may have been sold a fake spirit!
Take care on the Wye.
One of the inca, aborigine or native American Indian gods that they talked about thousands of years before the one you worship was invented
No he's not
He wants YOU to provide proof and facts
His position is one of nuance , don't know , not sure , please provide evidence
That's most people's view but eventually your lot grind us and wear us down and we turn into full on satanists
So what makes their gods real and the God of the Bible an invention?
And to save you the membership hassle, there's no need to enlist as a satanist to aid his cause. Simply keep Jesus Christ on your lips when you are surprised or angry and people will know exactly who you serve.
Personally I think it is likely that there was a historical person that we now know as Jesus, do I believe any of the magic stuff - of course not. Most that was added at a later date by people who spotted the opportunity to grow a religion out of the death of a local figure.
Th early church was practically defined by martyrdom.
One theory I find interesting is whether Jesus Chris and Jesus Barrabas were actually the same person.
Barrabas was a leader of insurrection against the Roman occupation of the land - a charismatic leader who is striving to free his people but was betrayed and executed - thart seems far more lkely to be the kind of person that would generate a large number of supporters to forment a religion than a carpenter and lay preacher - but the resistance against the Romans was violent - and when they were undergoing the process to repaint the head of their cult as the messiah they couldn't have him murdering people so it was altered.
Just an interesting theory.
The 'magic stuff' - the Miracles.
1. At what point and why which means did Jesus try and free His People, the Jews?
2. It's interesting that people get deeply interested in many theories that have no historical support but ignore all the evidence as to who Jesus actually is!
3. Should Jesus be Almighy God in human form to fulfill His *Mission, then the Miracles are childsplay when you look at the scope and wonder of the entire Universe.
4. Given your above assessment of the Romans, the Jews and Jesus Himself, what do YOU think His key *Mission was, and what leads you to your conclusion?
Correction: At what point and by which means did Jesus try and free His People, the Jews?
They don't go on and on about him ....or her ... like you lot do
God if he's a good bloke will let me in wether I swear or not
I would hope if he exists he won't let the clean mouthed priest, God loving and all that in that spends too much time with young kids
I'll just assume you fall under the influence of strong beverages from 7.30pm.
I wasn't talking about swearing, but taking the Name of God in vain.
A child of God never does that.
But there no god,never has been never will be.
All of you will be so sad when you die.
So basically I am going to hell if I smack my thumb with a hammer and shout Jesus fecking christ that hurts!
Or if I go to church and promise not to do it again I am home and dry ?
Are you still a child of God if you are in your 50s ?
Going to Church will no more make you a Christian than dragging your Great Aunt into the CCS will make her a City fan.
A child of God is any Christian, and I mean a Christian by God's definition, not man-made religion.
Hammer or not, your automatic habit (and that of millions of others) of naming one Man's Name in anger from all the numerous religious icons that everyone has heard of (buddha, mohammid, Vishnu, Shiva etc) indicates one thing, the god you serve hates one Man above all others, the One who defeated Him at the Cross; so all his children can't help but use His Name in anger all the time.
Oh I am a son of Satan!
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According to the Bible, correct; a book that stands unchallenged successfully in any field of understanding despite it's completion over 1900 years ago.
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