So wtf is going on with Bulut?

[Garth Blue]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

Well if you are the sort of person to throw around feck off back to Turkey insults , covering thinly hidden ignorance ........then you are definitely a dopey twat and definitely not in my stellar system

I can't possibly say if you are

" Feck off back to Turkey" "Dopey ignorant moronic twat". Hmmm, double standards I would say..... but then I shouldn't question the boards centre of mass.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

" Feck off back to Turkey" "Dopey ignorant moronic twat". Hmmm, double standards I would say..... but then I shouldn't question the boards centre of mass.

I am confused as to why this is difficult for you to grasp

If someone thinks someone should feck off back to where they are from this historically is used as a term of discrimination

And they deserve to have their wings clipped

There's no double standards there

I mean it's not like I want a happy chat with these people

I can see that you don't agree and don't like all this modern stuff you think is politically correct and woke but that's the way it is

[the other bob wilson]

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Perhaps you're right, it didn't need to be asked. But boldly stating Bulut is a German and anyone who thinks otherwise is a "dopey twat" or a "moron" is a bit daft too, wouldn't you say?

Yes, especially when the individual concerned uses terms like “we”and “us” when talking about Turkey and has won under 21 caps for that country. Anyway,shouldn’t Erol Bulut’s nationality be irrelevant in the current situation and when debating about his management? He isn’t a very defensive football manager because he’s Turkish or German.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

Like many progeny of immigrants, Bulut's self-identity is mixed, according to comments he has made to the German press. He experienced some prejudice when growing up in Germany and resistance in some quarters when taking up a place in the Turkish national team.
In general, he appears to feel at home in both cultures and hugely enjoyed his time working in Greece.
The concept of a singular national identity can sometimes be a tad nebulous and complex for those who straddle more than one culture, methinks.

[splott parker]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

Like many progeny of immigrants, Bulut's self-identity is mixed, according to comments he has made to the German press. He experienced some prejudice when growing up in Germany and resistance in some quarters when taking up a place in the Turkish national team.
In general, he appears to feel at home in both cultures and hugely enjoyed his time working in Greece.
The concept of a singular national identity can sometimes be a tad nebulous and complex for those who straddle more than one culture, methinks.

Oh f*ck, you’ve brought Greece into it now……….

[Garth Blue]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

I am confused as to why this is difficult for you to grasp

If someone thinks someone should feck off back to where they are from this historically is used as a term of discrimination

And they deserve to have their wings clipped

There's no double standards there

I mean it's not like I want a happy chat with these people

I can see that you don't agree and don't like all this modern stuff you think is politically correct and woke but that's the way it is

You have no idea what my views are. It's actually quite funny that you think I'm anti-woke. But I really don't like people with a superiority complex and little self awareness who pontificate and sit in judgement of others. The post that started this by Monkfish was a football opinion about Bulut. You and Flint have turned it into something quite different. If anyone deserves to have their wings clipped it's you.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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You have no idea what my views are. It's actually quite funny that you think I'm anti-woke. But I really don't like people with a superiority complex and little self awareness who pontificate and sit in judgement of others. The post that started this by Monkfish was a football opinion about Bulut. You and Flint have turned it into something quite different. If anyone deserves to have their wings clipped it's you.

I think your initial post gives plenty of clues as to where you lie with regard to the issue of an ignorant fool on Wales Online telling a bloke to go back where he comes from

I am not commenting about the post by Monkfish and I have been clear about that , I am referring to posts made on the Wales Online site

Either you think those sort of comments are OK or you don't

[J R Hartley]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

You have no idea what my views are. It's actually quite funny that you think I'm anti-woke. But I really don't like people with a superiority complex and little self awareness who pontificate and sit in judgement of others. The post that started this by Monkfish was a football opinion about Bulut. You and Flint have turned it into something quite different. If anyone deserves to have their wings clipped it's you.

Amen to that.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

Yes, especially when the individual concerned uses terms like “we”and “us” when talking about Turkey and has won under 21 caps for that country. Anyway,shouldn’t Erol Bulut’s nationality be irrelevant in the current situation and when debating about his management? He isn’t a very defensive football manager because he’s Turkish or German.

Well it should be irrelevant but that's the point here

Comments on Wales Online were saying go back to Turkey

Given he was born in Germany, has lived in Germany then why would people assume he should be fecking off to Turkey?

In this case its clearly a xenophobic slur using on his perceived nationality

Just because a bigot gets someone's background right ....or wrong .....doesn't mean they are not a bigot

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Amen to that.

Another apologist arrives

[OurManFlint II]

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Perhaps you're right, it didn't need to be asked. But boldly stating Bulut is a German and anyone who thinks otherwise is a "dopey twat" or a "moron" is a bit daft too, wouldn't you say?

I was being facetious with the f off back comment, but the ethic slur of 'turkball', is what it is. using somebodies ethnicity like that, same as getting a chinky or stopping off at the pakis to pick something up, its contemptuous.

[Divine Wright]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

You have no idea what my views are. It's actually quite funny that you think I'm anti-woke. But I really don't like people with a superiority complex and little self awareness who pontificate and sit in judgement of others. The post that started this by Monkfish was a football opinion about Bulut. You and Flint have turned it into something quite different. If anyone deserves to have their wings clipped it's you.

Why don't you do one back to Gwaelod Y Garth ya wealthy so an so.

[Garth Blue]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

Why don't you do one back to Gwaelod Y Garth ya wealthy so an so.

Oh I'm much more elevated than Gwaelod.......but I'm not offended.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Oh I'm much more elevated than Gwaelod.......but I'm not offended.

If its Garth Maesteg I probably delivered your post

Was it Mr Evans ?

[Garth Blue]

Re: So wtf is going on with Bulut?

If its Garth Maesteg I probably delivered your post

Was it Mr Evans ?

Eh no and no.