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  1. #26

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    The obsession with American politics in the UK baffles me

    People out in the street protesting because a guy said grab her by the pussy, vs actual regimes that kills people

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    The most expensive Trumpy Rumpy Pumpy ever, which could have massive consequences, they are both dangerous and way too old, what a state the World is in.
    Truly. Madly. Bigly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    As others have said these are the best two candidates the USA can come up with? Somethings not right - what a mess the world is right now and it could get worse!
    Add Putin, Kin Jong Un, Xi Jinping, Macron and for a while Boris, and Liz Truss, it really makes you wonder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Nothing in constitution to stop a felon being POTUS.
    The situation wasn't considered by the Founding Fathers.
    This situation simply reflects the moral decline of the USA. Here is a bloke who cheated on his wife and tried to cover it up by paying off a porn actress to keep stumm using his business account monies to do so. And some people want this man to be their president! For God bless America read God help America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Nothing in constitution to stop a felon being POTUS.
    The situation wasn't considered by the Founding Fathers.
    I believe that if he were to be imprisoned he couldn't vote himself but can still stand as a presidential candidate. A tad bizarre, methinks.

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    He has a 24 hour security detail for life. There's absolutely no way he's going to jail. The worst thing that could happen to him is being placed under house arrest.

  7. #32

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    Trump will be cleared on appeal. This case was a nonsense. He paid a porn star not to blab about some naughty stuff years ago which spoiler alert is not a criminal offence. Trump has been convicted on the grounds that this payment somehow affected the 2016 election against another potential criminal Hilary Clinton.

    How the court could come to that conclusion is unbelievable. Also, that conviction was using Federal Law in a State Law court, so the court has overreached its authority. This conviction won't last 5 minutes in the appeal court and will be thrown out with the rubbish and hopefully the same will happen to the rest of the democratic swamp come November

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianKnight View Post
    Trump will be cleared on appeal. This case was a nonsense. He paid a porn star not to blab about some naughty stuff years ago which spoiler alert is not a criminal offence. Trump has been convicted on the grounds that this payment somehow affected the 2016 election against another potential criminal Hilary Clinton.

    How the court could come to that conclusion is unbelievable. Also, that conviction was using Federal Law in a State Law court, so the court has overreached its authority. This conviction won't last 5 minutes in the appeal court and will be thrown out with the rubbish and hopefully the same will happen to the rest of the democratic swamp come November
    Wishful thinking.

  9. #34

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    I’ll be voting for RFK Jr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianKnight View Post
    Trump will be cleared on appeal. This case was a nonsense. He paid a porn star not to blab about some naughty stuff years ago which spoiler alert is not a criminal offence. Trump has been convicted on the grounds that this payment somehow affected the 2016 election against another potential criminal Hilary Clinton.

    How the court could come to that conclusion is unbelievable. Also, that conviction was using Federal Law in a State Law court, so the court has overreached its authority. This conviction won't last 5 minutes in the appeal court and will be thrown out with the rubbish and hopefully the same will happen to the rest of the democratic swamp come November

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianKnight View Post
    Trump will be cleared on appeal. This case was a nonsense. He paid a porn star not to blab about some naughty stuff years ago which spoiler alert is not a criminal offence. Trump has been convicted on the grounds that this payment somehow affected the 2016 election against another potential criminal Hilary Clinton.

    How the court could come to that conclusion is unbelievable. Also, that conviction was using Federal Law in a State Law court, so the court has overreached its authority. This conviction won't last 5 minutes in the appeal court and will be thrown out with the rubbish and hopefully the same will happen to the rest of the democratic swamp come November
    F off Donald you nutcase

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianKnight View Post
    Trump will be cleared on appeal. This case was a nonsense. He paid a porn star not to blab about some naughty stuff years ago which spoiler alert is not a criminal offence. Trump has been convicted on the grounds that this payment somehow affected the 2016 election against another potential criminal Hilary Clinton.

    How the court could come to that conclusion is unbelievable. Also, that conviction was using Federal Law in a State Law court, so the court has overreached its authority. This conviction won't last 5 minutes in the appeal court and will be thrown out with the rubbish and hopefully the same will happen to the rest of the democratic swamp come November
    Not true. The case was all about falsifying accounts, nothing to do with whether it affected the 2016 election. That case is yet to follow, I believe.

    It baffles me how anyone supports that man, let alone outsiders i.e., non-US citizens.

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    Thats Trump in power then.

    41 days to decide on sentencing from a democratic influenced court case ??

    Oh hang on 4 days late its the GOP Republican Presedendital Nomination event .

    Don't you love democracy..

    If folk think that the democratic party is not as bad as Trump are very niave.

    $850 billion propsed USA defence budget making its way from White House its only a 1% increase .

    Republican Party wants 5% and bigger fireworks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post
    First offence. My prediction is fines, community service or something minor. It will not stop him campaigning. This is the most trivial of cases - paying a tart some cash to stay quiet. The heavier charges, but much harder to prove, are the incidents at the White House and the other stuff. I think those will not land on him.

    What makes this entire election fascinating to me is this. We know that 40% either side are die hard Dems and Reps. The 20% meat in the middle (seing voters) now have to weigh up:

    1. The corporate sector: Higher business foreclosures, real estate crisis, failing small-mid banks, retail mall destruction and transport companies going under at a rate of knots - all of this due to high interest rates

    2. Private company layoffs, partly cushioned by additional government jobs

    3. Personal debt situation: Credit card, auto loans and student loan delinquencies sky rocketing to levels not seen in 15 years

    4. Home sales volumes crashing at rates not seen for 15-20 years, and with it, house prices. Wealth effect leaving them poorer

    5. Immigration at the border becoming a hot topic

    6. Inflation still pinching the wallet. Prices are not falling - they are going up less but costs are still a little higher than last two years

    7. The political choice: an 80 year old felon, tart-botherer who runs around calling judges corrupt and said injecting bleach would get rid of CoVid versus an even older man who struggles to read from a scripted autocue, who covers up for his criminal son, and under his watch alone, due to his perceived weakness, has allowed Xi Xinping, Putin and Ayatollah of Iran run amok against American / Western interests, resulting in shipping attacks and inflationary spikes.

    Seriously, trying to present one as bad and one as good is clinically insane. If people want to get sucked into blue v red, Left v Right, then more fool them for being tribal baboons. This is by some country mile the worst situation for Americans I can ever recall in my lifetime. And with it, the worst set of political options to deal with the problem.

    All I can say is that Biden or Trump, if the USA can get to 2028 without triggering World War Three, the collapse of the dollar, a US Government Bonds crisis, a banking crisis or a US civil war, they will be the luckiest country on the planet.
    He was found guilty of offences related to trying to deceive the electorate. I don't think that's trivial.

    I value being a citizen of a republic and I think the legal system needs to protect us against those who seek to subvert it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    Not true. The case was all about falsifying accounts, nothing to do with whether it affected the 2016 election. That case is yet to follow, I believe.

    It baffles me how anyone supports that man, let alone outsiders i.e., non-US citizens.
    I'm afraid both of you are wrong. He was found guilty of conspiring to affect the 2016 election by false accounting etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
    I’ll be voting for RFK Jr.
    I hope that's a joke, just like RFK and his brain worms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    This situation simply reflects the moral decline of the USA. Here is a bloke who cheated on his wife and tried to cover it up by paying off a porn actress to keep stumm using his business account monies to do so. And some people want this man to be their president! For God bless America read God help America.
    I think you'll find the brainiacs in your population voted for Brexit led by a few pernicious venal types. Take a look in the mirror, bub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianKnight View Post
    Trump will be cleared on appeal. This case was a nonsense. He paid a porn star not to blab about some naughty stuff years ago which spoiler alert is not a criminal offence. Trump has been convicted on the grounds that this payment somehow affected the 2016 election against another potential criminal Hilary Clinton.

    How the court could come to that conclusion is unbelievable. Also, that conviction was using Federal Law in a State Law court, so the court has overreached its authority. This conviction won't last 5 minutes in the appeal court and will be thrown out with the rubbish and hopefully the same will happen to the rest of the democratic swamp come November
    Radicalised. What’s Prevent’s number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I think you'll find the brainiacs in your population voted for Brexit led by a few pernicious venal types. Take a look in the mirror, bub.
    ..and there's the rub. A complete intolerance of anyone - even if it's in the millions - whose opinions differ from yours. Sort of puts your previous posts into context..

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    ..and there's the rub. A complete intolerance of anyone - even if it's in the millions - whose opinions differ from yours. Sort of puts your previous posts into context..
    I take it you voted for Brexit. I'm sorry.

  22. #47

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    Ridiculous case by a piece of shit DA, helped by a dodgy judge who has pushed and cajoled the jury into a bit of a silly decision. A decision that may well see the worst president in history be able to play the victim card and get himself elected. Without these ridiculous cases I think biden wipes the floor with trump, after these rabid democrat prosecutors habe had their days in court I think the election result is more up in the air.

    I hope trump doesn't get elected, but if he does. I hope he goes after some of these people, they're even worse than he is.

  23. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I think you'll find the brainiacs in your population voted for Brexit led by a few pernicious venal types. Take a look in the mirror, bub.
    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I hope that's a joke, just like RFK and his brain worms.
    Absolutely not.

    I assume that you are voting for Biden and are calling out Kennedy on his mental state?
    Really?

    You can read into what you want about his history and stance on vaccines.
    I have taken the time to watch and read many interviews with him and if you go beyond the partisan sound bites…he explains his point of view very well.

    I personally disagree with him about Ukraine,
    However out of the three candidates, one stands head and shoulders above the other two clowns and it certainly isn’t Biden.

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinianKnight View Post
    Trump will be cleared on appeal. This case was a nonsense. He paid a porn star not to blab about some naughty stuff years ago which spoiler alert is not a criminal offence. Trump has been convicted on the grounds that this payment somehow affected the 2016 election against another potential criminal Hilary Clinton.

    How the court could come to that conclusion is unbelievable. Also, that conviction was using Federal Law in a State Law court, so the court has overreached its authority. This conviction won't last 5 minutes in the appeal court and will be thrown out with the rubbish and hopefully the same will happen to the rest of the democratic swamp come November
    I think you’re misreading the situation and the fact it went to trial and was found guilty, suggests he was indeed guilty.

  25. #50

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    They should just execute the fat prick. Everyone would be happy then, win win.

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