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Thread: EUROS FINAL. FT: ENGLAND 1 - 2 SPAIN

  1. #151

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I agree with most of what you say, but Serbia werent unlucky. Apart from a decent shot from range they created next to nothing.
    They were unlucky the goal came from a deflected cross. Apart from that England created nothing.

  2. #152

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Are England too much of a collection of very gifted individuals when it comes to attacking play? I dont watch them very often these days, but, when I do, I end up thinking they should be better than this - I thought that the best part of the team last night was the defence which was meant to be their weak point.

  3. #153

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    If he plays TAA in midfield against a team like France, Spain or Germany it will cost them. He looked like a chicken with his head cut off when Serbia had the ball, positioning all wrong which isnt surprising considering he doesnt play there usually.

    Bellingham is an incredible player. Tired a bit in the second but in the first half was the one player demanding the ball and dragging them upfield.

    Foden genuinely might as well not have been on the field Rob Page level tactics and awareness to not take him off on the hour mark. Southgate is a shocking manager stuck in the mid 2000s, probably wishing hed taken Henderson with him after all.

  4. #154

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Are England too much of a collection of very gifted individuals when it comes to attacking play? I dont watch them very often these days, but, when I do, I end up thinking they should be better than this - I thought that the best part of the team last night was the defence which was meant to be their weak point.
    It certainly doesnt seem to work as constructed Bob, Kane likes to drop deep from the 9, Bellingham likes to drop very deep from the 10, Foden and Saka completely isolated, hes got a full back in midfield and two full backs who very rarely get forward to support. You wonder exactly how hes trying to have them play.

  5. #155

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Are England too much of a collection of very gifted individuals when it comes to attacking play? I dont watch them very often these days, but, when I do, I end up thinking they should be better than this - I thought that the best part of the team last night was the defence which was meant to be their weak point.
    Look no further than Southgate, and they'll probably give him knighthood too!

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    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    England started very well for twenty-five minutes, but after that, they got weaker and weaker as the game went on and allowed them back into the game. They are in the weakest group and are probably just about in the top ten based on that overall performance, a mile behind Germany and Spain who battered their weak opponents.

  7. #157

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfresco View Post
    They were unlucky the goal came from a deflected cross. Apart from that England created nothing.
    Apart from Kane having his header pushed onto the bar by the keeper...

  8. #158

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Apart from Kane having his header pushed onto the bar by the keeper...
    He was largely anonymous, unless touching the ball 20 times was part of the plan?

  9. #159

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    MONDAY 17th JUNE

    FT: ROMANIA 3 - 0 UKRAINE

    FT: BELGIUM 0 - 1 SLOVAKIA

    FT: AUSTRIA 0 - 1 FRANCE

  10. #160

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Just what I was thinking, maybe theyve been freed up in a way because everything doesnt have to go through Lewandowski?
    A bit like us with Bale

  11. #161

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    if I was England manager the first thing I'd do would be to drop Kane.
    I honestly think he makes them a worse team these days.

    you want your line leader to be leading the line, not winning defensive headers and fancying about in midfield. the number of times Saka best his man in the first half and delivered a shit cross to nobody because Kane had dropped deep and doesn't have the pace to get back in the box in time.

  12. #162

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    I wonder given that if hed try Kane in a hybrid 10 role with Toney or Watkins and Bellingham dropping back to play with Rice. At least give it a try in the third game if they beat Denmark to qualify.

    There is zero chance they drop one of the best strikers in the world but I dont disagree with the tactical sentiment though same thing for the Dutch who were crying out for a center forward all game and then Wieghorst comes on and scores with his first touch in an area nobody else was getting into.

  13. #163

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    if I was England manager the first thing I'd do would be to drop Kane.
    Drop the record-breaking top scorer in the Bundesliga - makes sense to me...

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    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    It's competitive this year, some really good teams, and running mostly to form so far, I'm looking forward to the rest and the next round of games which may give us a better idea of the best eight teams.

  15. #165

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Drop the record-breaking top scorer in the Bundesliga - makes sense to me...

  16. #166

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    Ukraine are poor up to now (52 minutes)

    2-0 as I was typing

    Terrible keeping

  17. #167

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    Was expecting a tight game between Ukraine and Romania. Certainly didn't expect 3-0 Romania.

    Ukraine were actually heavy favourites for this game, 10/11 Ukraine and 7/2 Romania. Hope no one piled in on Ukraine

  18. #168

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    They weren't unlucky, they lacked quality. A team with that quality would have beaten England Comfortably this evening, That will be a worry for Southgate. Thankfully,(for them) it was serbia
    Ah, but they don't want to peak too early mind!

  19. #169

    Re: EURO'S thread. Sunday 16th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Ah, but they don't want to peak too early mind!
    Yup, it's all part of the master Plan, all cliches are welcome as are other lazy anecdotes England were awful in midfield yesterday, they just couldn't get hold of the ball or play with any fluidity. There best ball player (Foden) was awful, and he didn't look comfortable. If people want to dismiss it then fine, to me, it's a problem for them and a balance that needs addressing quickly, because at this level good players will capitalise upon it. I'm sure that we will see a different England in the next game, a much improved performance. I hope not, but it's pretty bloody obvious that they need to play through that midfield with more fluidity.

  20. #170

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    Slovakia. Another side according to some we shouldve walloped.

  21. #171

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    I said in my blog last week that Slovakia were nothing special against us, but they’re worth their lead against Belgium - not sure how there’s only been the one goal so far mind.

  22. #172

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    To be fair this is par for the course for the perennial underachievers of major international tournament football

  23. #173

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by LA Bluebird View Post
    To be fair this is par for the course for the perennial underachievers of major international tournament football
    England can lay claim to that title, perhaps more so than Belgium given the populations of both nations.

  24. #174

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    England can lay claim to that title, perhaps more so than Belgium given the populations of both nations.
    Yup, but look at the players Belgium have had over the past ten years. They're soft, they remind me a bit of Kevin Keegans Newcastle.

  25. #175

    Re: EUROS thread. Monday 17th June 2024.

    Belgium trying to score the “perfect goal”, just whack it

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