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  1. #26

    Re: An argument about golf handicaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Timing is everything. It's too late to primary, but just in time to switcheroo.
    I see you ignored my question about the need for a switcheroo in the first place - why did the elite who really runeverything want to involve a 81 year old Biden in their machinations, if he stands down in the next month, how has him dimishing the Democrats’ chances of a win suit the master plan?

  2. #27

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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-debate-speech

    Trouble is, anyone who saw the worst of Biden's debate performance cannot just unremember it. As with the large majority of chronic illnesses and/or conditions, you have good days and bad days and the man who looked so all at sea at 81 wasn't as bad as that at 80, yet he's asking that the people of the USA put their trust in him to do what many still see as the most impeortant job in the world until he's 85 or 86.

  3. #28

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    It's like the bloke in the crowd shouting the King hasn't got any clothes on !

    He's got to be persuaded to step aside now , it's cringeworthy

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I had to turn it off after about 30 minutes because of the visceral response it was inducing in me.

    Trump is a lying braggart and insurrectionist. How he is not in jail for January 6 and squirreling away classified documents, I have no idea. He will set the mob loose (literally). But last night he dialed it down, was lucid and seemed calmer and even reasoned if you didn't realize he was just lying all the time. I fear for democracy and the free world if he is elected.

    Biden has done a half decent job - the economy is strong, he's tried his best at foreign policy. But last night he was lost. He seemed nervous, he looked almost on the verge of sleep at times and he was incoherent. His performance was terrible. He looked like a very aged relative agitatedly rambling in his favourite comfortable chair at Christmas (Thanksgiving here).
    What brand of cannabis are you smoking?

    ECONOMICS

    Are you just staring at GEE-DEE-PEE and the stock market NasDaq prices, Keynesian-geek? Or just reading the BBC and Guardian referring to GEE-DEE-PEE?

    Go and look at what real people are feeling in the US, and some market / economic internals that tell you what is going on under the hood, like
    a real economist with thorough education, or a good city trader, would look at. Real economics.

    Such as the cost of living which is hurting. Look at debt interest rates, and the debt service
    ratio-to-income that ia hurting many people as a result. Look at auto loan defaults. Commercial Real estate crisis in California and New York states. Look at housing problems. Looked the fall in permanent private employment statistics such as layoffs and job openings. Student defaults. Credit card default. 60 mid range range banks with off the book losses, worse than the GFC (Source: May, FDIC) and anticipated to be bailed out? Cyclical sector downturns? And of course the king-sized twin deficits now blowing up US debts due to his Green-obsession. It is all deadly.

    Clearly you don’t know where to look, your training in economics is third rate, you’re ignoring it for politics, or as I suspect you are not what you say you are. Quoting “3% inflation” and “GEE-DEE-PEE” is only stuff that academics, political people and wonks care about. This isn’t the language that people or voters care about. It is bubble-talk and you’re one of them.

    So connect the dots homie and do your homework. Because opinion polls have been saying for months that the voters are not feeling anything on the economy. It it is because the data points I point out above are what is really happening and what people are really feeling. The only people that ever believed that this old crooner was suitable for the next four years, or even some myth of the economy doing well, are the bearded academics and the Democrat political bubble that props the old codger up.

    Aside from economics optics are everything. People have said for 1-2 years now that Biden was senile or incapable. It was branded “Right Wing” or “Conspiracy Theorist” which is laughable. Well no more, as the chickens are now coming home to roost as the truth bubbles to the surface in plain sight for all to see. It was just common sense and a simple eyball check. The debate has smacked a few ignorant people square the face and brought reality home. Even the FT admitted yesterday they got it wrong. A generous serving of humble pie and admission that the attempt by media to manipulate opinion has blown up - just like your credibility.

    FOREIGN POLICY

    Under Biden, Iran, China and Russia have ran riot in encircling the West in Ukraine, Middle East and increasingly Taiwan. None of this happened Trump. Russia and China were not challenging militarily and Iran brought to his knees. Despite Trump appearing unhinged, none ran amok
    under him because he was feared. Nobody fears Biden. He is a wimp. And if there is one thing we know in life, it takes a bully to beat a bully. Bullies run all over wimps, and that is why Xi, Putin and the Ayatollah of Iran have ran rings around Biden.

    So let’s recap on four things I have called right, and you have called wrong:

    1. Economic arguments on GEE-DEE-PEE don’t sway voters. Get real and look at real economic data that affects real people and tells us what is going on. I have dropped sufficient hints. Now follow up, good boy, and mark it down as education, personal growth” or a reality check.

    2. Biden is shocking on foreign policy. The age of peace has gone. The age of the strongman has returned. Europe and the US need strongmen to respond. Hippies will not beat military generals. Wimps will not beat bullies.

    3. Optics count more than policy detail. Biden is senile, is too old, and can’t remember things to debate. Trump is an idiot but appears strong, a good communicator, is combative, and knows what makes people tick (even if his empathy is false). He can tell (untruthful) stories which is powerful. He therefore lands better with the public eye and if allowed to run will win. That’s politics. It is game of optics and persuasion, or a game relative to your opponeny, not your ideal world based on truth, fact nor even competence.

    4. Trump’s court case will not change the polls. Everyone thought it was “the end”. I said it wasn’t. I’m right. You’re wrong. Handle it like a man.

    If Democrats are to return it is the like of Tulsi Gabbard that they need. Newsom, Harris, Whitmer and Kennedy will not cut the mustard. The search for a Democrat with a pair of bollocks
    continues. And the idea thay AzCity knows what
    is going on is a busted flush. You don’t like my tone? First, check your own.

    As Ice Cube said: “Check Yo-self before you wreck Yo-self, big dicks in your mouth is bad for your health”

    KS in the house y’all: THE VOICE OF REASON, TEACHER OF TRUTH

    Keyser 4-0 AzCity. BOOM!!!!!!! 💣

  5. #30

    Re: An argument about golf handicaps.

    I see the New York Times has called for Biden to step down. It's the American paper of record and a liberal mouthpiece, something like the Guardian and Times combined and quite a significant call.

    I would say it's 50/50 that he ends up standing at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I see the New York Times has called for Biden to step down. It's the American paper of record and a liberal mouthpiece, something like the Guardian and Times combined and quite a significant call.

    I would say it's 50/50 that he ends up standing at the moment
    That was a car crash

    He's going to be dead within a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Soze View Post

    As Ice Cube said: “Check Yo-self before you wreck Yo-self, big dicks in your mouth is bad for your health”

    KS in the house y’all: THE VOICE OF REASON, TEACHER OF TRUTH.

    Keyser 4-0 AzCity. BOOM!!!!!!! ��
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  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    That was a car crash

    He's going to be dead within a year
    Seems he is determined to carry on. The longer he does the more likely he is to lose and the less time any replacement has to prepare etc.

    I just find it bizarre. His record is very mixed and he's pretty unpopular but had he stood down now I think he would have been regarded fairly well

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    Re: An argument about golf handicaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Seems he is determined to carry on. The longer he does the more likely he is to lose and the less time any replacement has to prepare etc.

    I just find it bizarre. His record is very mixed and he's pretty unpopular but had he stood down now I think he would have been regarded fairly well
    I think it would be best if he stood aside but he seems determined to carry on. I fear for the US.

  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I think it would be best if he stood aside but he seems determined to carry on. I fear for the US.
    A pleasure agreeing with you old bean! 👍

  11. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I think it would be best if he stood aside but he seems determined to carry on. I fear for the US.
    Now I'm not a conspiracy theorist and don't really subscribe to this new world elite order that can manipulate politics to preserve their status quo and install presidential puppets to ensure their objectives are met.

    But if I was I'm prepared to bet that Biden risking it all due to him not stepping down see's him (Biden) being involved in an accident or someone accidentally pushing him off a podium?

    I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm just saying. They shot Kennedy don't you know.

    Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Now I'm not a conspiracy theorist and don't really subscribe to this new world elite order that can manipulate politics to preserve their status quo and install presidential puppets to ensure their objectives are met.

    But if I was I'm prepared to bet that Biden risking it all due to him not stepping down see's him (Biden) being involved in an accident or someone accidentally pushing him off a podium?

    I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm just saying. They shot Kennedy don't you know.

    Just saying.
    I don't see that happening, but I can only imagine the conversations that go on about him within the govt.

    I think he is more with it than the edited videos of his bloopers suggest. That scenario will expose his frailties more than anything, but still, he clearly is getting some quite simple things pretty mixed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I don't see that happening, but I can only imagine the conversations that go on about him within the govt.

    I think he is more with it than the edited videos of his bloopers suggest. That scenario will expose his frailties more than anything, but still, he clearly is getting some quite simple things pretty mixed up
    I wasn't expecting a reply to my absolute nonsense there but cheers buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    I wasn't expecting a reply to my absolute nonsense there but cheers buddy.
    🤣

  15. #40

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    Just did one of my periodic checks on the odds and I see that Biden is now not even second favourite to be next US president.

    https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics

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    Re: An argument about golf handicaps.

    They are going to push him out aren't they, he's a goner whether he likes it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    They are going to push him out aren't they, he's a goner whether he likes it or not.
    This is the strongest clue I've seen so far that Biden will be running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    This is the strongest clue I've seen so far that Biden will be running.
    Why do they want to lose?

    75% of Americans think he's not fit for office!

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    I don't think he will end up running. I think there will be medical advice not to which senior (no pun intended) democrats will be duty bound to act upon.

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    Nancy Pelosi seemingly putting pressure on Biden to stand down.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cv2gq705qwjt#player

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    Re: An argument about golf handicaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Nancy Pelosi seemingly putting pressure on Biden to stand down.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cv2gq705qwjt#player
    George Clooney too.

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    Re: An argument about golf handicaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Nancy Pelosi seemingly putting pressure on Biden to stand down.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cv2gq705qwjt#player
    She'll whack him!

    Stick with him they'll lose, change him, I think they will probably win, depending on who with of course.

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    Re: An argument about golf handicaps.

    Biden needs to be given a dignified way to step down. He is clearly suffering from cognitive decline and watching it on live TV is cruel. It needs to be swift so his successor has a chance in the race against Trump.

    I'm hoping that behind the scenes senior party Democrats are beavering away but I'm worried they will put Biden and/or the party in front of what the country needs.

    We absolutely have to stop Trump at all costs. If the Democrats don't do what is best for America (and the planet), I will personally never forgive them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Biden needs to be given a dignified way to step down. He is clearly suffering from cognitive decline and watching it on live TV is cruel. It needs to be swift so his successor has a chance in the race against Trump.

    I'm hoping that behind the scenes senior party Democrats are beavering away but I'm worried they will put Biden and/or the party in front of what the country needs.

    We absolutely have to stop Trump at all costs. If the Democrats don't do what is best for America (and the planet), I will personally never forgive them.
    Problem is each passing week is damaging them too. Even if he was stood down next week, the next inevitable scandal will be...well when did you know? Why didnt you act sooner? What does it say about your judgement to have let it get to this stage? Etc etc etc.

    Personally I don't think it's too late, but it's getting damn close.

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    Re: An argument about golf handicaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Problem is each passing week is damaging them too. Even if he was stood down next week, the next inevitable scandal will be...well when did you know? Why didnt you act sooner? What does it say about your judgement to have let it get to this stage? Etc etc etc.

    Personally I don't think it's too late, but it's getting damn close.
    I don't think you're correct there.

    I think the media will move on very quickly and so will the sane (non-MAGA) public to concentrate on Trump's cognitive abilities (and his insane lying).

    It's no way too late. The election is in November.

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