Starmer Seems More Relaxed

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Starmer is boring and about as uninspiring as an unbuttered ham sandwich on shit white bread. He also has no answers, which will mean he will be found out all the words he has used against the Tories will be thrown back at him in due course.

Oops

More lies than Boris

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Makes no difference - the only way he can do what he wants is by getting growth - and he wont be able to do that - according to most. Unless he goes down the PFI dodgy money scam started by Major - but Brown went to town on it - and hid it off the books.

I admire your hope - but it's blind hope. All Starmer and Reeves will do is kill business and enterprise startups in return for vast public sector projects that will eventually end up in failure (like they usually do under these Goons)

You and your posh labour champagne sipping mates down in the vale are going to get a leathering (but you probably enjoy that sort of
thing)

I will leave that to tory mps

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

You can be a bit creepy sometimes Cyril, but you have me there!

I should rephrase...I have rarely criticised him..

That's not true either

I am afraid you have shot your bolt

[cyril evans awaydays]

As with so many critics of the UK Cyril, you seem to do it from a position of not knowing what is happening across Europe.

Honestly, following European politics helps explain a good 75% of what is happening in the UK!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ration-reforms

Can you explain what "Rwanda-style" means. Just so you know what is happening across Europe and how that gels with the Tory tosh you have spewed out for the last years and your love of the idea of leaving the ECHR you should have the difference at your finger tips!

[Alfresco]

We can look forward to 6500 teachers hundreds of specialised border controllers and the NHS sorted. All that with the Chancellor saying we haven't got a pot to pith in.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

We can look forward to 6500 teachers hundreds of specialised border controllers and the NHS sorted. All that with the Chancellor saying we haven't got a pot to pith in.

Well that's not what she said

[goats]

We can look forward to 6500 teachers hundreds of specialised border controllers and the NHS sorted. All that with the Chancellor saying we haven't got a pot to pith in.

Everything will get fixed now, 20 mph nonsense reversed, cardiff airport sorted, desperately needed new schools built, no more 3 week waits fir Dr’s, new houses built for 1st time buyers and those who are just to lazy to do anything, new m4 relief rd, cycle tracks built in right places for once, nhs waits down to a month not 6, no tax until you earn 20k, more tax to utilities to subsidise the increases we all suffer for no reason bar new Hitlers actions, ccfc promoted and never to go down again…..

[pipster]

The nhs employs about 1,500,000 people
It is something like the 5th joint largest employing the world. If it isn’t fixed with that amount of people, then it isn’t a people problem.

[JamesWales]

Can you explain what "Rwanda-style" means. Just so you know what is happening across Europe and how that gels with the Tory tosh you have spewed out for the last years and your love of the idea of leaving the ECHR you should have the difference at your finger tips!

"Rwanda style" would presumably mean offshoring processing to a safe third country.

[jon1959]

The nhs employs about 1,500,000 people
It is something like the 5th joint largest employing the world. If it isn’t fixed with that amount of people, then it isn’t a people problem.

I think the actual figure is 1.7m - including a lot of expensive agency staff and a lot of vacancies and sickness absences (especially since the Covid crisis). It is a system that is under stress - and investment in the people who work there is part of the fix.

At least the waste of the internal market is gone (or on its way out). More proper planning and building the capacity needed (in 2020 the UK had a quarter of the ICU beds per head compared to Germany, and 10% compared to the USA - although the capacity there was skewed towards private hospitals). Less playing Thatcherite shop experiments.

All countries will need to spend more on health and social care as populations age. And that will require big workforces. I just hope the UK solution to its health and care problems isn't Wes Streeting turning us into a junior USA - but I think that's his direction of travel.

[jon1959]

"Rwanda style" would presumably mean offshoring processing to a safe third country.

No it would mean pouring £370m down the toilet on a stunt to excite the flagging interest of Daily Express readers; it would mean paying a couple of people £3k to go to Rwanda on holiday; it would mean the government tying itself into legal and ethical knots to declare a receiving country 'safe' through the power of wishful thinking - and a whipped vote in Parliament; it would mean spending vast amounts of money and reputation on a scheme that at full capacity would only take 0.7% of small boat numbers (other means of entry to the UK by asylum seekers and 'illegal' migrants are not in the frame and make the Rwanda scheme even more insignificant); and it would mean shouting about the deterrent effect in the face of all the evidence that there is none.

That is 'Rwanda style'.

[North Cardiff Blue]

He's a lot more confident in front of the cameras than he was when opposition leader

Maybe he's going to be more effective and assertive than some of us thought

Give him a week he'll be stressed and not know what day of the week it is, a months and the lefties and unions will be battering the sh!t out of him. It's easy in opposition, when you have to do the job, with constant moaning it's a lot harder, Farage will batter him from the other side too, he'llll be a wreck in five years when he leaves number ten again, if he's not pushed out before.

[North Cardiff Blue]

He has the potential to do great things. He’s in a position of enormous power and influence. As I’ve said in a previous thread, if he can act with honour and just 25% socialist policy this could be a moment in history. I’m not writing him off. But neither does he or any person in power get an adoring free pass from me.

He won't do anything don't fool yourself.

Sorry, he's appointed some knob from a shoe bar key-cutting stall and wants to reduce prisoner numbers, because breaking into Granny's houses isn't that bad apparently they are nice lovely people that need a few more cuddles and hugs, or bless em!

[goats]

Give him a week he'll be stressed and not know what day of the week it is, a months and the lefties and unions will be battering the sh!t out of him. It's easy in opposition, when you have to do the job, with constant moaning it's a lot harder, Farage will batter him from the other side too, he'llll be a wreck in five years when he leaves number ten again, if he's not pushed out before.

Recall their previous hero, Tony bliar, looked quite young and lively when he got in, looked about 20 years older by the time he’d ruined the country and the Middle East

[jeepster]

He won't do anything don't fool yourself.

Sorry, he's appointed some knob from a shoe bar key-cutting stall and wants to reduce prisoner numbers, because breaking into Granny's houses isn't that bad apparently they are nice lovely people that need a few more cuddles and hugs, or bless em!

Your lot lost, get over it stop bitching like a big girls blouse.
Give the man a chance.

[jon1959]

He won't do anything don't fool yourself.

Sorry, he's appointed some knob from a shoe bar key-cutting stall and wants to reduce prisoner numbers, because breaking into Granny's houses isn't that bad apparently they are nice lovely people that need a few more cuddles and hugs, or bless em!

Thursday night and Friday morning has hit you hard, hasn't it.

I recommend a wet flannel, dark room and whale music.

It won't help your mood but the thought of it has put a smile on my face!

[pipster]

Your lot lost, get over it stop bitching like a big girls blouse.
Give the man a chance.

You are right - I'll give it 100 days - that is the usual yardstick. By which time there should be an improvement in figures. Less arrivals on small boats (good luck with that given the new French Govt likely to be in power), lower cancer wait times, lower wait times for GPs, living wage increased, lower inflation, higher employment, and growth predicted to be 2-2.5% which is what he will need (apparently) - unless he decides to put taxes instead and take the easy way out - and just attack private businesses to take their money.

[jeepster]

You are right - I'll give it 100 days - that is the usual yardstick. By which time there should be an improvement in figures. Less arrivals on small boats (good luck with that given the new French Govt likely to be in power), lower cancer wait times, lower wait times for GPs, living wage increased, lower inflation, higher employment, and growth predicted to be 2-2.5% which is what he will need (apparently) - unless he decides to put taxes instead and take the easy way out - and just attack private businesses to take their money.

It is not like flicking a switch sorting out the NHS ect will take time.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What a bitter bunch of tory tarts on here

😂

Pipster , goats and ncb like crying babies 🤱

Hope starmer makes you dribble

Have a great summer cherubs

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

It is not like flicking a switch sorting out the NHS ect will take time.

Unlike the brains of these saps

[North Cardiff Blue]

Everything will get fixed now, 20 mph nonsense reversed, cardiff airport sorted, desperately needed new schools built, no more 3 week waits fir Dr’s, new houses built for 1st time buyers and those who are just to lazy to do anything, new m4 relief rd, cycle tracks built in right places for once, nhs waits down to a month not 6, no tax until you earn 20k, more tax to utilities to subsidise the increases we all suffer for no reason bar new Hitlers actions, ccfc promoted and never to go down again…..

Convicts cutting your new keys for your new free house and fixing your watch and phone

[North Cardiff Blue]

Thursday night and Friday morning has hit you hard, hasn't it.

I recommend a wet flannel, dark room and whale music.

It won't help your mood but the thought of it has put a smile on my face!

I'm happy as Larry, it's more fun laughing at all the mistakes, and laughing at all you lefties getting defensive

[North Cardiff Blue]

Your lot lost, get over it stop bitching like a big girls blouse.
Give the man a chance.

You think it will be a good idea to let free much more prisoners, and that only a third of them should be there?

[jeepster]

You think it will be a good idea to let free much more prisoners, and that only a third of them should be there?

So it was ok to let prisoners out early under your lot,but not Labour?

[jon1959]

Convicts cutting your new keys for your new free house and fixing your watch and phone

Timpsons have been employing ex offenders for over 20 years.

Over 10% of their workforce are ex offenders.

You are really getting your knickers in a twist over something that has happened - and worked well - under Blair, Brown, Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak.

Very odd.