FT: MAMELODI SUNDOWNS 1 - 1 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread and highlights

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Never knew we'd toured Africa, Australia and New Zealand.
What's wrong with Devon and Cornwall eh?

[Tuerto]

Never knew we'd toured Africa, Australia and New Zealand.
What's wrong with Devon and Cornwall eh?

We were Global before Global was invented.

[splott parker]

Never knew we'd toured Africa, Australia and New Zealand.
What's wrong with Devon and Cornwall eh?

Steve Derrett made a scrapbook of the tour, lent it to me a while back. Really interesting, press cuttings, little write ups by him about the trip. Doubt many footballers would do that now. He was 21 at the time, reckoned it was a knackering trip, not the ideal pre season situation.

[Mr Soul '68]

Cheers Tony

https://www.rsssf.org/tablesc/cardif...oceania68.html

Cardiff City FC, a Welsh club, played twelve matches during its tour of New Zealand and Australia in 1968, winning ten and drawing two. At the time of the tour, Cardiff City FC were playing in the English League, Division 2.
Summary

DATE VENUE OPPOSITION RESULT
- Christchurch Canterbury XI 2-0 W
- Auckland Auckland XI 3-0 W
5- 6 Auckland New Zealand 3-0 W

9- 6 Melbourne Victoria XI 1-1 D
10- 6 Hobart Tasmania XI 5-1 W
15- 6 Newcastle Northern NSW XI 2-0 W
16- 6 Sydney New South Wales XI 1-1 D
19- 6 Melbourne Victoria XI 6-0 W
23- 6 Brisbane Queensland XI 7-2 W
26- 6 Sydney New South Wales XI 3-1 W
29- 6 Adelaide South Australia XI 3-2 W
7- 7 Perth Western Australia 6-1 W
Details

??/??/1968, Auckland
AUCKLAND XI 0
CARDIFF CITY FC 3
Auckland XI: Neville Siebert, Colin Latimour, Gary Lake, George Lamont, Willie de Graaf,
Tom McNab, Paul Rennell, David Taylor, Earle Thomas, Ray Mears, John Legg.
Cardiff City FC: n/a
Note: John Houghton was listed as a substitute for Auckland XI.
Auckland XI is a regional selection from New Zealand.

??/??/1968, Christchurch
CANTERBURY XI 0
CARDIFF CITY FC 2
Canterbury XI: Derek Phillips, Grahame Davis, Alex Hawthorn, Tony Gowans, Graham Griffiths,
Gwyn Evans, Barry Hammond, Terry Haydon, Alan Caine, Bryce Wilkinson, Vic Pollard.
Cardiff City FC: n/a
Note: Stewart Squire and Martyn Clements were listed as the Canterbury XI substitutes
for this match.
Canterbury XI is a regional selection from New Zealand.

05/06/1968, Auckland, Newmarket Park
NEW ZEALAND 0
CARDIFF CITY FC 3
New Zealand: Neville Siebert, Colin Latimour, Gary Lake, Terry Haydon, Tom McNab [c],
David Wallace, Alex Milne, Brian Turner (Malcolm Ferguson), Paddy Breslin,
Ray Mears (Bill de Graaf), John Legg.
Cardiff City FC: n/a
Referee: R W Cullen.
Note: New Zealand was coached by Juan Schwanner.


For the details of the matches played in Australia, see:
http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/MiscGa.../68SIndex.html



About this document

Source: [Smi 69]

Prepared and maintained by Andre Zlotkowski for the Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation

Author: Andre Zlotkowski ([email protected])

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

Steve Derrett made a scrapbook of the tour, lent it to me a while back. Really interesting, press cuttings, little write ups by him about the trip. Doubt many footballers would do that now. He was 21 at the time, reckoned it was a knackering trip, not the ideal pre season situation.

An interesting record.
No, can't imagine you'd get back from that feeling fit and ready to go.

[City123]

Some crap WOL reporting
"Substitute Eli King felt he was fouled out wide on the right. The linesman agreed, but the referee didn't, choosing instead to play advantage, and that allowed Joel Colwill to race away into the area and finish."

If the ref played advantage he must have seen a foul. You can't have it both ways, either there was no foul and play continued or the was a foul by the ref played the advantage.

Pretty sure it was Ashford not King as well

[the other bob wilson]

We toured Africa in 1969:

11/05/1969. Tanzania 0-2
13/05/1969. Tanzania 1-0
15/05/1969. Young Africans FC (Tanzania) 0-1
18/05/1969. Mauritius 1-0
22/05/1969. Mauritius 5-0
25/05/1969. Mauritius 2-2
29/05/1969. Zambia 1-1
02/06/1969. Zambia 2-1
05/06/1969. Zambia 1-1

The reference material I used had that tour down as solely being to Mauritius - it has us down as playing them six times which struck me as odd and makes no mention of us facing Tanzania or the Young Africans.Wikipedia confirms that we did play in Zambia, but, again, makes no mention of is playing in Tanzania.

That reference material of mine I mentioned earlier calls the African trip a post season tour and, looking at the dates involved, that's definitely the case. The marathon trip to Australasia in 1968 was also also post season for 67/68, rather than pre season 68/69. It lasted from 28 May to 7 July, so the players must have come home and then had a hoilday before the season started on 10 August.

Hardly surprisingly, City started 68/69 in disastrous fashion as they were beaten 4-0 at home by Palace, then lost again at Ninian Park by 1-0 by Charlton four days later and then by 3-1 at Norwich to complete a miserable first week of the campaign which left them bottom of the table. From there, the improvement which led to 68/69 being our best league season in years kicked in and we eventually finished fifth, nine points behind Palace in the second of the two promotion places in those days of two points for a win.

Therefore, while it would be wrong to say that the long summer tout cost us promotion, it must have meant that we had a restricted pre season (we played no warm up games) and had to have played a part in leaving us with so much to do when it came to earning promotion. On the face of it, you would have thought that the City hierarchy concluded that such a long post season tour was detrimental to the team's league campaign, but, not a bit of it, because they were off again, albeit on a shorter tour, as soon as 69/70 ended!

[FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead]

Some crap WOL reporting
"Substitute Eli King felt he was fouled out wide on the right. The linesman agreed, but the referee didn't, choosing instead to play advantage, and that allowed Joel Colwill to race away into the area and finish."

If the ref played advantage he must have seen a foul. You can't have it both ways, either there was no foul and play continued or the was a foul by the ref played the advantage.

That annoyed me as well, and as someone else said, it was Ashford, not King. Usual top quality WoL journalism.

Thought that was a good workout, Sundowns were a very handy team with some good players.

Thought Ashford was superb in the first half, although he faded after the break. Joel Colwill looked a little shaky out of position at RB but did well when he was pushed into an attacking midfield role. Kpakio continues to impress, I think he will be involved in the first team at some point this season. Fagan-Walcott lost his man a couple of times, especially when defending crosses, but he looks comfortable on the ball.

Turnbull flatters to deceive. He won posession high up a couple of times, but also skied a few half decent chances. Etete was very poor. I'm not one of his usual boo boys but he displayed all the traits that frustrate people so much: weak, going down too easy, not enough desire or hunger. As for Robinson... I think he's had a good pre-season so far and if he CA get back to his previous levels, he could be like a new signing.

As for the stream: Bet365 usually show live feeds on their website, for those who have an account. Yesterday it was clearly a different feed to the official City one, as the camera was on the opposite side of the pitch. Might be worth a try for the Hertha match.

[Michael Morris]

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