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Throwing the kids in is like gambling with other people's money. Reindorf had a decent cameo against a league 1 side and now, despite being released by another championship team after making 0 appearances for them, is apparently ready to start against one of the favourites for promotion. Bearing in mind our number 9s have little support most of the time he's on a hiding to nothing.
He did a good bit of work out wide on the right, was semi put through on goal and for some mad reason he slowed up his run and in the end couldn't get his shot off. It's absolutely crazy to suggest that he should start. Is this where we're at, one game in and talking like the Burnley game is a free pass as we've got absolutely no chance. If that's the thinking then we're ****ed.Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays
Yeah, I was one of those that had an "absolutely crazy" suggestion that Reindorf should start. Let's stick with the tried and trusted Meite, he's sure to deliver.
You say that like i'm backing Meite or anyone else. This isn't taking sides, it shows how ****ing desperate things are that after one game we're talking about a player who did alright for 25 minutes against a shit Bristol Rovers outfit. That's no criticism of him. It's desperate, and we're only in Mid August.
I understand your point. Surely we can take into account his performances in the U21s though?
Maybe, I mean that's all they have to go on really, the U21 games. I can see him going out on loan.
I'm a bit surprised at the reaction Reindorf's been getting from fans, yes he closed players down and had some decent moments, but that's about it. In fact he lost the ball a fair few times.
Indicative of how dire our striker options are I guess
I think we need to look at him from close quarters, not relying on reports from a club we've loaned him to.
Sending him out on loan is much too premature, he's only just arrived at our club.
You said it better than i did
If someone watched that game having seen neither before I'm pretty certain near 100% would choose Reindorf over Kanga if both were up for a selection choice.
Some decent moments beats doing absolutely nothing.
There was one ball which was more than decent as well.
In the spirit of trying to be more positive and being a glass half-full kinda fan these days, I'd prefer to view it as it's only about 6 weeks after the Summer Solstice.
On another positive note I thought Kanga looked......tall.
You're losing me here. I said last season that it's not just about under-21 games for the youngsters, how they train when they're with the first team is important. The coaching staff can assess how they look against the senior players and judge a lot about their ability, strength, character etc. This was your reply.
'You're right, what goes on during the week is imperative towards a young players development and inclusion. Thing is, as fans, we aren't seeing the character of these players, we don't see what they're like in certain situations on a training pitch, we don't see how they respond. We just look at a player in their position who isn't performing and ask why (Insert Name) isn't playing in front of them. Managers and coaches have to trust players as well, there are loads of factors that us as fans don't take into account or see (For obvious reasons) on a daily basis.
Young players are also in aposition where they have to prove themselves. All players have to go through it. People might think it's wrong, but they can't just be on the same level as the person in their position, they have to be better, like nearly all young players that break through, they were showing more.
Now you're saying that the club can only go on under-21 games.
I'm with Hilts (and others) here, Reindorf did well the other night, I don't understand the negativity. You're saying it's 'f**king desperate' and 'we're f**ked' if we start him anytime soon but we've got Davies, Robinson and Etete injured and Kanga not fully fit yet. We play one up top, how many forwards should we be stocking up just in case? We are where we are for now. Hopefully Reindorf will be a bit closer to Mbappe for you guys if he gets another chance.
Is he talking about the club or the fans? I thought it was the latter, but maybe he’ll tell us in due course.
Sorry, yes. He said 'they' and I took it as the club rather than the fans, my mistake.
Either way, I'm not sure what his point is. Reindorf was certainly more effective than Kanga on Tuesday. Obviously going 1-0 up gave him, Tanner, Evans and Colwill more space to work with but he took his chance to impress and the crowd responded to him. Meite hasn't impressed as a forward here and three other strikers are injured. I doubt Bulut will play Reindorf on Saturday but if he thinks that's the best option then so be it, I don't understand what Tuerto's getting so worked up about.
,You're losing me here. I said last season that it's not just about under-21 games for the youngsters, how they train when they're with the first team is important. The coaching staff can assess how they look against the senior players and judge a lot about their ability, strength, character etc. This was your reply.
'You're right, what goes on during the week is imperative towards a young players development and inclusion. Thing is, as fans, we aren't seeing the character of these players, we don't see what they're like in certain situations on a training pitch, we don't see how they respond. We just look at a player in their position who isn't performing and ask why (Insert Name) isn't playing in front of them. Managers and coaches have to trust players as well, there are loads of factors that us as fans don't take into account or see (For obvious reasons) on a daily basis.
Young players are also in aposition where they have to prove themselves. All players have to go through it. People might think it's wrong, but they can't just be on the same level as the person in their position, they have to be better, like nearly all young players that break through, they were showing more.
Now you're saying that the club can only go on under-21 games.
I'm with Hilts (and others) here, Reindorf did well the other night, I don't understand the negativity. You're saying it's 'f**king desperate' and 'we're f**ked' if we start him anytime soon but we've got Davies, Robinson and Etete injured and Kanga not fully fit yet. We play one up top, how many forwards should we be stocking up just in case? We are where we are for now. Hopefully Reindorf will be a bit closer to Mbappe for you guys if he gets another chance.
I do mean the club in a competitive sense, and fans as well really, if they watch u21 football. Training isn't playing. I have no idea how Reindorf trains but i do know that he's been impressive in u21 games, so those games must be a factor in his inclusion against Rovers. He might be brilliant in training as well.You're losing me here. I said last season that it's not just about under-21 games for the youngsters, how they train when they're with the first team is important. The coaching staff can assess how they look against the senior players and judge a lot about their ability, strength, character etc. This was your reply.
'You're right, what goes on during the week is imperative towards a young players development and inclusion. Thing is, as fans, we aren't seeing the character of these players, we don't see what they're like in certain situations on a training pitch, we don't see how they respond. We just look at a player in their position who isn't performing and ask why (Insert Name) isn't playing in front of them. Managers and coaches have to trust players as well, there are loads of factors that us as fans don't take into account or see (For obvious reasons) on a daily basis.
Young players are also in aposition where they have to prove themselves. All players have to go through it. People might think it's wrong, but they can't just be on the same level as the person in their position, they have to be better, like nearly all young players that break through, they were showing more.
Now you're saying that the club can only go on under-21 games.
I'm with Hilts (and others) here, Reindorf did well the other night, I don't understand the negativity. You're saying it's 'f**king desperate' and 'we're f**ked' if we start him anytime soon but we've got Davies, Robinson and Etete injured and Kanga not fully fit yet. We play one up top, how many forwards should we be stocking up just in case? We are where we are for now. Hopefully Reindorf will be a bit closer to Mbappe for you guys if he gets another chance.
My point about people aying that he should maybe start is more about the club and it's failure to capture a striker that is ready to go. In my opinion a half decent 25 minutes in the league cup shouldn't propel a player into a starting position, squad member maybe. So it's more a criticism of the transfer activity rather than the people who called for his inclusion, maybe i didn't make that clear enough. Hope that clears it up for you.
I don't see how anyone could've possible expected the club to have recruited a proven striker given our current stature in the league and financial power. They are gold dust in this division and there are many better options than ourselves.
We've got who we've got because of who and what we currently are. Bang average.
I didn't say proven, whatever the criteria for that is. Fit would have done.
Yeah that I can't argue withI didn't say proven, whatever the criteria for that is. Fit would have done.
Hopefully Kanga can get up to speed with things, El Ghazi should be fit by January as wellYeah that I can't argue with
There always one ...You're losing me here. I said last season that it's not just about under-21 games for the youngsters, how they train when they're with the first team is important. The coaching staff can assess how they look against the senior players and judge a lot about their ability, strength, character etc. This was your reply.
'You're right, what goes on during the week is imperative towards a young players development and inclusion. Thing is, as fans, we aren't seeing the character of these players, we don't see what they're like in certain situations on a training pitch, we don't see how they respond. We just look at a player in their position who isn't performing and ask why (Insert Name) isn't playing in front of them. Managers and coaches have to trust players as well, there are loads of factors that us as fans don't take into account or see (For obvious reasons) on a daily basis.
Young players are also in aposition where they have to prove themselves. All players have to go through it. People might think it's wrong, but they can't just be on the same level as the person in their position, they have to be better, like nearly all young players that break through, they were showing more.
Now you're saying that the club can only go on under-21 games.
I'm with Hilts (and others) here, Reindorf did well the other night, I don't understand the negativity. You're saying it's 'f**king desperate' and 'we're f**ked' if we start him anytime soon but we've got Davies, Robinson and Etete injured and Kanga not fully fit yet. We play one up top, how many forwards should we be stocking up just in case? We are where we are for now. Hopefully Reindorf will be a bit closer to Mbappe for you guys if he gets another chance.
Comes along with a sensible , informed post .
What is wrong with you ?
I come on here to read people ranting about how shit we are at everything , absolutely everything ..
When Tuerto is ranting 10 minutes after the end of the first game of the season , a game we played OK in , lacked a cutting edge.
We will win games playing worse than we did on Saturday . A poster I normally enjoy /respect reading.
As we all know, being negative brings lots of joy , happiness , fulfilment and of course success .
So Loramski time to return to your very amusing self and skip the sensible post . No place for them here.
Reindorf ran around with great speed and enthusiasm . I think that might not be quite our league . Imagine he does it week on week ...Hopefully Kanga can get up to speed with things, El Ghazi should be fit by January as well
Jim, i don't know what that means, and i didn't rant about anything after saturdays game. Sweet dreams.
I saw Reindorf get a hat-trick against Pontypridd recently. Very energetic and a real handful for the 90 minutes. I wouldn't say that makes him a Championship striker though. If he holds his own in training, maybe gives Goutas and Chambers the run around and shows up well in other areas too then that doesn't necessarily make him a Championship striker either. If injuries give him a chance against League 1 opposition and he puts in a lively, promising performance then neither does that. What more can he do though? The injuries aren't his fault, nor Kanga's fitness. He's putting his name forward, good luck to the guy.
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Any side that loses three strikers through injury and has a fourth unfit would expect to be less competitive, of course, but I'm not sure how a club is meant to legislate for it. In that situation, if your sixth choice striker is a teenager who's showing some promise then I'd expect any fanbase to be positive and optimistic about him but you want to pick holes in everything here. Each to their own.
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