Reply With QuoteCurrently your paragraph is flibberating, I'm sure you can make it make some sort of senseOriginally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
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Flew was a philosophical flibbettygibbet who thoughts bounced all around the place during his life. Not that his musings represented anything like real evidence.
Currently your paragraph is flibberating, I'm sure you can make it make some sort of sense
who = whoseCurrently your paragraph is flibberating, I'm sure you can make it make some sort of sense
Another example of most people understanding a situation (in this case a mere typo on a mobile phone) but which confuses you.
And the word you were looking for was 'flibbertigibbet'.
I doubt you will ever take the time to look at the evidence, mainly because you are aware that those who have, have found something very disturbing and unsettling.
At the Edinburgh book festival in 2010 Christopher Hitchens debated John Lennox. In concluding his speech, John Lennox mentioned the fact of the resurrection of Jesus. The moderator, John Humphreys, asked Christopher Hitchens to respond, indicating that he had five minutes. Hitchens barked: ‘I won’t need five minutes to respond to someone who believes in the resurrection.”
This is a standard tactic – equate people who believe in the resurrection with people who believe in a flat earth, Santa Claus and Scotland winning the World Cup, and you then don’t need to even think about, never mind examine the evidence.
The main objection to the resurrection is simple. Resurrections just don’t happen. But you need to stop there. We agree. Totally. That is the point. Resurrections don’t happen. If they did then the resurrection of Jesus would be no big deal. It would be a bit like me saying, Jesus is the Son of God because he recovered from illness.
Getting better is common. Getting resurrected is not. In the normal course of events resurrections do not happen. But the Bible is claiming that this is not the normal course of events. It is the ultimate extraordinary event. So instead of dismissing it we need to ask, what happened and what proof is there, before then going on to consider the implications.
Proof? 'But the Bible is claiming.....'?
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The depth of debate, stunning as ever
And no, it's the evidence OUTSIDE the Bible that is key in this case
I missed out the 'r' while typing on a mobile phone screen while on public transport. Big deal
As for your carpet-bombing of things Biblical on here, it's very tiresome as most of us will never believe in talking donkeys, a talking snake and all the other errant nonsense that you have swallowed whole.
You set the tone. 'Give out bollocks, receive back bollocks!' (The Book Of Rab C Nesbitt, Chapter something, Verse something else).The depth of debate, stunning as ever
If you would only stick to carpet bombing the board with your reactionary, infantile beliefs/faith it would be cringeworthy enough, but when you then engage in constant circular, self-referential nonsense and pretend it is proof of your fantasies - that tips it over the edge. Assertion wrapped up in Graham Hancock level 'science' is not proof, and you do not debate. You troll (another fantastical invention!)
You must believe in the trolls of Scandinavian folklore if you are using that term, jon1959 - and that you do is proof that they exist.
The irony is you both serve one of the two you mentioned without knowing it; and why would my reference to God's Word be more tedious than your sieve-like world view? Neither of you have one robust argument for any of the anti-Christ rants you post here!
I can't remember ever espousing my 'world view' on here and my not believing in any deity at all (and of the thousands that have ever been worshipped on this planet) can only be described as an 'anti-Christ rant' by you, a ridiculous extremist who regularly misrepresents the views of moderate and rational people on here if they don't bow down to your god.
I am so glad that you and Jon who are more intelligent than me can put my feelings in to what i believe.
People's views are easy to spot after a few days let alone years, so hiding is not an option as people betray their god/s very early on. And 'anti-christ' is spot on even if you don't understand the reference.
As for bowing down, everyone including Hitler will one day *bow down to a Jew, so the sooner people find out who He really is the better.
*Philippians 2:9-11
Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honour and gave him the name above all other names, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue declare that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Is it your position that anyone that isn't a Christian is an anti-Christ? This message board must be heaving with them.
My view has nothing to do with it, the Bible teaches that anyone, religious or otherwise, who doesn't believe in the bodily resurrection of Christ Jesus is anti-christ. Some people hide it better than others, just like this board.
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Rowan Atkinson or Rowan Williams; it's the beast within.
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Who 'hides' their lack of belief in such things?
The majority of the population of the world are considered 'anti-Christ' according to your definition, including many Jews - so best get used to it.
By the way, I was shown around a mosque in Senegal last week (by anti-Christs, no doubt) but redeemed myself yesterday by visiting a Catholic Church in the Valley of the Nuns here in Madeira.
You are Christian purely down to where and when you were born, by the way. Had you been born in China, Japan, Saudi Arabia or Ethiopia (countries with limited influence from the Roman Empire and the subsequent colonialism that bounced on some of its cultural values) you would probably be anti-Christ yourself.
Nice try, but there are Christians (by God's definition) on every continent of the world, and as Acts 8-10 informs us, there were so from the very birth of the Church.
How did visiting a Catholic Church redeem you?
If I visit a betting shop this afternoon, do I automatically become a gambler?
I know I will regret this, but how (by any sane definition - supernatural or real) were there Christians on every continent of the world 'from the very birth of the Church'? I have skimmed Acts 8-10 (and definitely regretted it - time I will never get back) but it does not say there were Christians in North America, South America, Antarctica or Australasia in the first century CE. Because there weren't.
There were small Christian groups in isolated parts of the Roman Empire (Asia, Europe and Africa) at that time, but the vast majority of the populations of those continents had no contact and had never heard of this new sect that had broken away from Judaism.
As TBG keeps pointing out, accidents of time and place determine what the credible and gullible will accept as universal truths. If you were born in seventeenth century Australia, eighth century Korea or fifteenth century Brazil you would not be going around your fellow citizens or tribal members advocating ethnic cleansing or denying women control over their own bodies in the name of a book of stone age foundation myths for 'the chosen people'!
Well a skimming is better than a shunning I guess
This again comes down to the world view of the reader, those like you who would reject God's Account of the history of man would scoff, but this is how this fits from God's Account to us:-
The three sons of Noah became the source (through their offspring) of three people groups who in turn went on to populate the other regions of the world such as Brazil, Iceland, Russia etc etc
The three sons were:-
Ham - the origin of the African nations.
Shem - the origin of the Asian nations.
Japheth - the origin of today's European nations.
As Acts 8 begins, Christ has recently been crucified, has risen and ascended. The Holy Spirit has arrived (as promised by Christ - See Acts chapter 2) and the Church can begun to grow; in fact it grew faster proportionally in the first century than it has in any other era.
As these things are unfolding, we read of:-
An Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8:26-39) - from Africa.
A murderous Saul who became Paul (Acts 9) - from Asia.
An Italian Centurian - Cornelius (Acts 10) - from Europe.
So this demostrates very clearly that the Gospel of Christ Jesus was immediately relevant to all who heard it and duly repented. Nothing has changed, this message of forgiveness, purpose and eternal security was soon established as the primary belief system across the globe, a place it still retains to this day.
While there are around 10,000 distinct religions in the world, over three-quarters of the global population adheres to one of these four – Christianity (31%), Islam (24%), Hinduism (15%), and Buddhism (7%).
Demographics Of Christianity
Christianity, a faith that began nearly 2,000 years ago in the Middle East, is now followed by 2.4 billion people, and is the primary religion practiced throughout the Americas, Europe, Oceania and sub-Saharan Africa. Half of Christians identify as Catholic, 37 percent Protestant, 12 percent Orthodox and 1 percent “Other”. The United States is home to the largest Christian population (11.3% of the world total), followed by Brazil (8%), and Mexico (5%). - article.
Yes maybe there is nobody really knows…..what miracles happened again, I must have forgotten bar Warnock getting us promoted…what occurred?
You obviously don't understand a p*ss-take when it's starting you in the face.
You don't seem to really understand the word 'probably' either. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.....
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