Petition to get rid of starmer and his cronies

[North Cardiff Blue]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

I've said it a few times, will be the most despised government in our history, a WEF puppet answerable to Gates and Blackrock, this is where the Farmers land will be going.

N.C.S.W.I.C

"Q"

Had a beer and curry in Covid, hang the bustard

[North Cardiff Blue]

You’ve posted more anti UK Government stuff in the last four months than you did in the fourteen years before that when you gave the impression domestic politics was beneath you - now we see your true colours.

I said I couldn’t see myself voting Labour again after the election and nothing that has happened since then has made me think of changing my mind, but any new Governing party should be given a period of grace of longer than four months because they can legitimately claim that “the big picture” has not become clear.

I had no great expectations of this Government, but they’ve been worse than I thought they would be so far - I won’t be signing this ridiculously timed petition though.

What have they done in that time, taking winter fuel allowance off pensioners to give to Civil Servants and the public centre inflation-busting pay rises?

I forgot and Lammy has made an enemy of Trump, marvelous.

[Eric Cartman]

What have they done in that time, taking winter fuel allowance off pensioners to give to Civil Servants and the public centre inflation-busting pay rises?

Does saying dumb divisive shit like this make you feel good?

Benefits are meant to be for people who absolutely need them, the majority of pensioners don't, a small amount have been caught in the grey area, which sucks for them. As we did to death in the other thread, logical policy, threshold set to low and has caught people out.

I would earn 15-20k more if I was doing my job in the private sector with slightly less job security and a worse pension but my 'decent' pension kicks in at state pension age so god knows when that will be or if I will be alive to see it. I am in this job because of a drive to try and make things better for vulnerable kids and their families but unfortunately that fuzzy feeling doesn't pay for anything so the goodwill only goes so far. If you want the kind of pay stagnation we saw during the 2010s to continue then you don't want public services. That's fine, but just say that.

[TWGL1]

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I don’t Fink it would make a difference if the signatures reached 25m

[JamesWales]

The petition is just a bit of fun really and a modern way of expressing discontent.

Everyone knows there shouldn't be and won't be a general election for several years (thankfully).

I love how the BBC just mention it got over 100,000 though, even though it is now at 2.5m.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2r4g98gjo

When the Brexit re-run referendum reached that number it was mentioned as part of the headline!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics...endum-36629324

[North Cardiff Blue]

Does saying dumb divisive shit like this make you feel good?

Benefits are meant to be for people who absolutely need them, the majority of pensioners don't, a small amount have been caught in the grey area, which sucks for them. As we did to death in the other thread, logical policy, threshold set to low and has caught people out.

I would earn 15-20k more if I was doing my job in the private sector with slightly less job security and a worse pension but my 'decent' pension kicks in at state pension age so god knows when that will be or if I will be alive to see it. I am in this job because of a drive to try and make things better for vulnerable kids and their families but unfortunately that fuzzy feeling doesn't pay for anything so the goodwill only goes so far. If you want the kind of pay stagnation we saw during the 2010s to continue then you don't want public services. That's fine but just say that.

Don't take facts personally, that's what the government has done, you don't have to get defensive, you've gained at the pensioners' expense, you wanted Labour in to benefit yourself and your family, that's life.

Civil servants one, pensioners nil.

Let's see what happens when the pensioners on mass and other losers in the budget vote next time.

People forgot what a Labour government was like, they've had a quick reminder, they will drag the UK down to Wales standards and leave a mess without being in government during Brexit and Covid.

All the incumbent governments during Covid will be voted out, people will blame the mess it left and the damage to the governments, then a few years later will realise how difficult a period it was as a once in 100-year event.

[Eric Cartman]

Don't take facts personally, that's what the government has done, you don't have to get defensive, you've gained at the pensioners' expense, you wanted Labour in to benefit yourself and your family, that's life.

Civil servants one, pensioners nil.

Let's see what happens when the pensioners on mass and other losers in the budget vote next time.

People forgot what a Labour government was like, they've had a quick reminder, they will drag the UK down to Wales standards and leave a mess without being in government during Brexit and Covid.

All the incumbent governments during Covid will be voted out, people will blame the mess it left and the damage to the governments, then a few years later will realise how difficult a period it was as a once in 100-year event.

I hate to burst your bubble but I got a larger pay rise (in % and £) last year under the conservatives. Also Local Government pay increases weren't funded centrally unlike those set by pay review bodies so instead had to be absorbed into existing budgets i.e. the money isnt being pinched from elsewhere, we just see a continuation of the budgetary pressure that councils have failed for a decade or more. Also also our pay offer was made to the unions under the previous conservative government. Turns out you don't really know anything, which will surprise absolutely nobody.

My point is it's retarded to look at government spending, pick two random things and associate them. The government committed money to loads of sectors at the same time as means testing the winter fuel allowance. For example 'they have committed 1 billion to the aerospace sector, and they took that 1 billion directly from poor fragile freezing cold pensioners' doesnt get people like you frothing so nobody says it, its just as valid though (i.e. not valid).

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I think starmer is a disaster

I hope he's very quickly taken out of the game via a vote of no confidence

But I will never vote conservative and I think losing a load of seats and a coalition with the liberals at the next election will be the outcome

[TWGL1]

I hate to burst your bubble but I got a larger pay rise (in % and £) last year under the conservatives. Also Local Government pay increases weren't funded centrally unlike those set by pay review bodies so instead had to be absorbed into existing budgets i.e. the money isnt being pinched from elsewhere, we just see a continuation of the budgetary pressure that councils have failed for a decade or more. Also also our pay offer was made to the unions under the previous conservative government. Turns out you don't really know anything, which will surprise absolutely nobody.

My point is it's retarded to look at government spending, pick two random things and associate them. The government committed money to loads of sectors at the same time as means testing the winter fuel allowance. For example 'they have committed 1 billion to the aerospace sector, and they took that 1 billion directly from poor fragile freezing cold pensioners' doesnt get people like you frothing so nobody says it, its just as valid though (i.e. not valid).

Which local authority do you work for ?

[the other bob wilson]

See the petition/publicity stunt has rather run out of steam in the last few days with something like a third of the votes the one calling for a second Brexit vote got. That time many of the people so eager to sign a petition this week were saying the people have spoken and democracy must be seen to be working - one difference was that the subject of the petition happened years earlier in the first instance and months earlier in the second one, I dare say we can now expect similar such petitions every few months from the snowflakes who are only fans of them when they suit their agenda.

[Heathblue]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ile-phone.html

Starmer, the gift horse that keeps on giving, maybe she has reformed!!!!, blue, red, orange, whatever color rosette, politicians being politicians.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ile-phone.html

Starmer, the gift horse that keeps on giving, maybe she has reformed!!!!, blue, red, orange, whatever color rosette, politicians being politicians.

What the feck is an intelligent man like you doing linking stories from the daily mail ?

It's a right wing gutter rag

The chairman of the Conservative Party is an oily , creepy, ponce

As for starmer I fail to see what else he can do than accept her resignation

The people crying about him from tge sidelines are going to give themselves a heart attack as he has a huge majority which means even if he loses loads of seats tge idiots that vote reform will keep him in power by splitting the tory vote

So every story has a happy ending 🙂

[Heathblue]

What the feck is an intelligent man like you doing linking stories from the daily mail ?

It's a right wing gutter rag

The chairman of the Conservative Party is an oily , creepy, ponce

As for starmer I fail to see what else he can do than accept her resignation

The people crying about him from tge sidelines are going to give themselves a heart attack as he has a huge majority which means even if he loses loads of seats tge idiots that vote reform will keep him in power by splitting the tory vote

So every story has a happy ending 🙂

The story is correct and should be the topic not the source. I wouldn't be so confident about his massive majority, Twitter has a massive influence and its owner has Starmer in his sight.

[Rjk]

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Just like Starmer wanted a confirmatory vote after the Brexit referendum

Slightly different, that's more like good project governance.

you SHOULD re-evaluate whether you want to do a project still as the reality of it becomes more clear, that's fundamental to any project management methodology.
None of the political parties were interested in following that through though, as it would have been an open goal for their opposition to accuse them of "betraying the outcome of the referendum" - i.e. politics is preventing our leaders from acting in the best interests of the country.

[Rjk]

Which local authority do you work for ?

Don't tell him pike!

[delmbox]

Would love to know how many people who voted in this petition were against the (far bigger) one calling for another Brexit referendum because "democracy had spoken"

[Rjk]

The story is correct and should be the topic not the source. I wouldn't be so confident about his massive majority, Twitter has a massive influence and its owner has Starmer in his sight.

Twitter's influence is dwindling by the week. It used to feel very relevant and important - it was great in it's heyday but it is getting worse all the time.

These days every time I go on there I'm exposed to overt racism and antisemitism - like old fashioned 1970s style stuff that I hadn't seen expressed in years.

The whole site is completely overrun by bots - the best bit about twitter used to be the replies- but these days 90%+ of them are bots posting completely unrelated content, so you don't et any discussion on whats been originally posted. The 10% that aren't bots are onlyfans girls promoting their pornography, and that is just as tiresome.

It also just doesn't work as well as it used to - videos seldom play that well, sometimes the sound of on video continues playing over the next video you've watched etc.

None of the alternatives are anywhere as good as Twitter used to be unfortunately - Bluesky is probably the closest, but has some way to go before it feels as vibrant and important.

I tihnk at the current rate, within 5 years Twitter will not be major player any more - it can happen to online based companies very quickly - look at MySpace, that was the leading social media site a while back, not sure it even exists now.
Or facebook even, still massive but now only used by boomers pretty much.

I'm sure it had some small influence for Trump in the recent US election (given the amount of pro-trump / anti Kamala content that was getting shoved in my direction on a daily basis, and I couldn't even vore in it) - but I can't see that being the case in future elections as Twitter loses its relevance.

[Wales-Bales]

Twitter's influence is dwindling by the week. It used to feel very relevant and important - it was great in it's heyday but it is getting worse all the time.

That's because the previous owner was sending out smoke signals that spoke to your tribe, and now hearing the truth is a little too jarring for you.

[jon1959]

That's because the previous owner was sending out smoke signals that spoke to your tribe, and now hearing the truth is a little too jarring for you.

Twitter. Musk. Truth.

[Rjk]

That's because the previous owner was sending out smoke signals that spoke to your tribe, and now hearing the truth is a little too jarring for you.

Honestly, not at all. I don't mind alternative viewpoints at all, and i enjoy sensible debate - my main criticism of bluesky so far is it's all a bit too nice - its people posting photos of owls and sunsets and saying how much they liked the Wicked movie (although would prefer it if th two leads were paid the same)

What twitter is rapidly becoming is certainly not the "truth" in the past 24 hours I've seen posts calling all black people criminals, and saying they should be sent back to Africa - and saying equally awful antisemitic things (not criticism of Israel - genuine old school "the jews deserve what they get as they are controlling everything etc" type of stuff. And any replies to these things are drowned out by 200 memes posted by bots - it's just unusuable these days. If it doesn't make some significant changes soon I predict it will die a very quick death.

[Wales-Bales]

Honestly, not at all. I don't mind alternative viewpoints at all, and i enjoy sensible debate - my main criticism of bluesky so far is it's all a bit too nice - its people posting photos of owls and sunsets and saying how much they liked the Wicked movie (although would prefer it if th two leads were paid the same)

What twitter is rapidly becoming is certainly not the "truth" in the past 24 hours I've seen posts calling all black people criminals, and saying they should be sent back to Africa - and saying equally awful antisemitic things (not criticism of Israel - genuine old school "the jews deserve what they get as they are controlling everything etc" type of stuff. And any replies to these things are drowned out by 200 memes posted by bots - it's just unusuable these days. If it doesn't make some significant changes soon I predict it will die a very quick death.

A quick browse of their jobs section suggests that they won't be going anywhere. In fact, the stuff they are currently working on is quite scary, as they really do want to be an "everything" app.

[Wales-Bales]

Twitter. Musk. Truth.

I understand things are a little difficult for the Fauci fans right now, especially with JFK Jr nominating Jay Bhattachary to follow in the footsteps of Francis Collins as Director of the National Institutes of Health.

[Rjk]

A quick browse of their jobs section suggests that they won't be going anywhere. In fact, the stuff they are currently working on is quite scary, as they really do want to be an "everything" app.

Care to elaborate on this?

[Rjk]

I understand things are a little difficult for the Fauci fans right now, especially with JFK Jr nominating Jay Bhattachary to follow in the footsteps of Francis Collins as Director of the National Institutes of Health.

It may surprise you to know that most people in this country aren't the slightest bit interested in this kind of stuff

[Wales-Bales]

It may surprise you to know that most people in this country aren't the slightest bit interested in this kind of stuff

Especially those who were amplifying the propaganda