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  1. #101
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    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Creation of God! (are you still on that pop?)
    Each day, throw away comments cost people their jobs, their relationships and sometimes their lives.
    Stick to politics, this isn't your field of knowledge.
    Good grief!

  2. #102

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Good grief!
    You mean to say that you think that there are some flaws in his theory that God took revenge on Lennon by engineering an assassin by:

    - putting him in an abusive childhood;
    - making sure he was bullied at High School so that he dropped out;
    - ensuring he became a born again Presbyterian so he understood the purpose and context of the mission he was chosen for;
    - saved him from his attempted suicide by sabotaging the hosepipe and got him regularly sacked from a variety of jobs finally driving him to alcohol abuse to ready him for his task.

    Why you can't see this plain truth is beyond me!

  3. #103

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    That really worked out well for him
    Yeah the CIA didn’t like how popular he was, still, he had a pretty good life, albeit tragically cut short.
    Did god kill him did he?

  4. #104

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    People who mock God puplicly often regret doing so. John then 26, only went on to live for another 19 years.
    George Harrison lived to 58 and Ringo and Paul are still around. God is not mocked.
    George was the most spiritual out of all of them…..why did god give him brain cancer? That’s a bastard of a thing to do no?

  5. #105

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Yeah the CIA didn’t like how popular he was, still, he had a pretty good life, albeit tragically cut short.
    Did god kill him did he?
    Yes he was more of a stones fan.

  6. #106

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    Yes he was more of a stones fan.
    But they were far more naughty….keith did drugs and stuff once or twice I heard

  7. #107

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    George was the most spiritual out of all of them…..why did god give him brain cancer? That’s a bastard of a thing to do no?
    Wrong god though. He was therefore anti-Christ according to truthpaste.

  8. #108

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    George was the most spiritual out of all of them…..why did god give him brain cancer? That’s a bastard of a thing to do no?
    Your assumption is based on this life being the entire scope of life, also God handing out illness and disaster. Neither of these are true.
    Christ didn't ask us all to become spiritual, He wants us to be honest about ourselves, our plight and our inability to redeem ourselves.

  9. #109

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Your assumption is based on this life being the entire scope of life, also God handing out illness and disaster. Neither of these are true.
    Christ didn't ask us all to become spiritual, He wants us to be honest about ourselves, our plight and our inability to redeem ourselves.
    So it is a win win thing for god?

  10. #110

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Your assumption is based on this life being the entire scope of life, also God handing out illness and disaster. Neither of these are true.
    Christ didn't ask us all to become spiritual, He wants us to be honest about ourselves, our plight and our inability to redeem ourselves.
    If he wants us to be honest and good why do all these priests ( his servants) abuse kids over the last 50/100 years or so?

  11. #111

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    If he wants us to be honest and good why do all these priests ( his servants) abuse kids over the last 50/100 years or so?
    You say "his servants" - why do you make that assumption?

  12. #112

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    So it is a win win thing for god?
    He came to die a gruesome death on a Roman cross, if it was all "win win", would you like to go out and have a similar 'win' this afternoon?

  13. #113

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Your assumption is based on this life being the entire scope of life, also God handing out illness and disaster. Neither of these are true.
    Christ didn't ask us all to become spiritual, He wants us to be honest about ourselves, our plight and our inability to redeem ourselves.
    Yes, very interesting. But you were in the middle of telling us how God sanctioned the hit on John Lennon and messed up Mark Chapman's life sufficiently to make sure it happened.

  14. #114

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Yes, very interesting. But you were in the middle of telling us how God sanctioned the hit on John Lennon and messed up Mark Chapman's life sufficiently to make sure it happened.
    God certainly didn't need a hit-man, as you may recall a similar situation we addressed with Mike Dickin, who set up a three hour program to mock Christians and their faith and in that program said if he met God then he'd have a few things to say to him. His wish was granted within 24 hours. No hit man or tragic life story required for his killer.
    If God allowed all the evil men planned to happen, then we would all be in permanent lockdown

  15. #115

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    He came to die a gruesome death on a Roman cross, if it was all "win win", would you like to go out and have a similar 'win' this afternoon?
    I am not trying to get people to follow me.

  16. #116

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Your assumption is based on this life being the entire scope of life, also God handing out illness and disaster. Neither of these are true.
    Christ didn't ask us all to become spiritual, He wants us to be honest about ourselves, our plight and our inability to redeem ourselves.
    Your god has obviously made us unable to redeem ourselves and has deemed that even those who believe in him are sinners from birth.
    The stick before the carrot of everlasting life, of course. Amusing.

  17. #117

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    God certainly didn't need a hit-man, as you may recall a similar situation we addressed with Mike Dickin, who set up a three hour program to mock Christians and their faith and in that program said if he met God then he'd have a few things to say to him. His wish was granted within 24 hours. No hit man or tragic life story required for his killer.
    If God allowed all the evil men planned to happen, then we would all be in permanent lockdown
    You seem to relish all these deaths,i thought your faith was about love and forgiveness.
    As i say win win.

  18. #118

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    God certainly didn't need a hit-man, as you may recall a similar situation we addressed with Mike Dickin, who set up a three hour program to mock Christians and their faith and in that program said if he met God then he'd have a few things to say to him. His wish was granted within 24 hours. No hit man or tragic life story required for his killer.
    If God allowed all the evil men planned to happen, then we would all be in permanent lockdown
    Ah, so most of the time there is an interception of evil that goes unoticed but for the public god mockers they have it coming either within 24 hours or other indeterminate time periods.

  19. #119

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Your god has obviously made us unable to redeem ourselves and has deemed that even those who believe in him are sinners from birth.
    The stick before the carrot of everlasting life, of course. Amusing.
    Life is already eternal. Think on.

  20. #120

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Life is already eternal. Think on.
    Nah, I don't thonk that the billions of people who have ever lived on the Earth exist elsewhere, whether it be your hell or your heaven - and only a minority ever believed in your god and in your particular brand thereof. Evidence seems to indicate that Homo Sapiens evolved around 3,000 years ago and way before your fairy stories were ever thought of and written down. Your god has been spectacularly successful in getting over only the tiniest sliver of humanity to escape the worst come Judgement Day.

    You think that people 2,000 years ago (and let's also remember that the books in the Bible were collated, edited and amended by human beings) have the answers for everything when they had no idea about DNA, atoms, gluons, muons, plate tectonics, blood groups, electricity, what caused lightning, radio signals, the speed of light, radiation, genetic mutation, evolution etc etc. On the other hand, we are expected to believe about people supposedly being turned to salt, water being turned into wine, Eve being created from Adam's rib, a talking donkey, a virgin birth, the existence of Nephilim, Enosh living over 900 years, demons being driven out of Mary Magdalen etc etc etc.

    They had no idea about the science that could result in motorised vehicles, aircarft, computerisation, space travel, MRI scans, x-rays, transplants, televison, nuclear power, photography, modern medicine, innoculation, chemotherapy, GPS and a lot else.

    They didn't even know the full extent of our own planet as regards all the continents that existed.

    It's very difficult to understand how intelligent people in the 21st century can believe in such myths...... but indictrination is an incredible thing.

  21. #121

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    You say "his servants" - why do you make that assumption?
    Well, they are his people right? All those dodgy monks, priests whatever you call them, all that abuse in Ireland……if they aren’t his disciples to coin a phrase, who are? There’s me thinking all these years that those lot were church people hey?

  22. #122

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Life is already eternal. Think on.
    Really? Where you off for the next installment? Are you needed on Mars with musk?

  23. #123

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    You seem to relish all these deaths,i thought your faith was about love and forgiveness.
    As i say win win.
    No no no, he murdered Lennon for starters, so many shite musicians out there too, why not take one of those sinners?

  24. #124
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    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Nah, I don't thonk that the billions of people who have ever lived on the Earth exist elsewhere, whether it be your hell or your heaven - and only a minority ever believed in your god and in your particular brand thereof. Evidence seems to indicate that Homo Sapiens evolved around 3,000 years ago and way before your fairy stories were ever thought of and written down. Your god has been spectacularly successful in getting over only the tiniest sliver of humanity to escape the worst come Judgement Day.

    You think that people 2,000 years ago (and let's also remember that the books in the Bible were collated, edited and amended by human beings) have the answers for everything when they had no idea about DNA, atoms, gluons, muons, plate tectonics, blood groups, electricity, what caused lightning, radio signals, the speed of light, radiation, genetic mutation, evolution etc etc. On the other hand, we are expected to believe about people supposedly being turned to salt, water being turned into wine, Eve being created from Adam's rib, a talking donkey, a virgin birth, the existence of Nephilim, Enosh living over 900 years, demons being driven out of Mary Magdalen etc etc etc.

    They had no idea about the science that could result in motorised vehicles, aircarft, computerisation, space travel, MRI scans, x-rays, transplants, televison, nuclear power, photography, modern medicine, innoculation, chemotherapy, GPS and a lot else.

    They didn't even know the full extent of our own planet as regards all the continents that existed.

    It's very difficult to understand how intelligent people in the 21st century can believe in such myths...... but indictrination is an incredible thing.
    I agree with you, but Homo Sapiens evolved about 250-300,000 years ago (you missed a few '0's).

    And Neanderthals were around from about 450,000 to 40,000 years ago - with a lot of evidence of interbreeding with Homo Sapiens - so even longer before the period of the shamans and mystics whose supposed words Truthpaste loves to 'quote' at us.

  25. #125

    Re: Justin Welby

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Nah, I don't thonk that the billions of people who have ever lived on the Earth exist elsewhere, whether it be your hell or your heaven - and only a minority ever believed in your god and in your particular brand thereof. Evidence seems to indicate that Homo Sapiens evolved around 3,000 years ago and way before your fairy stories were ever thought of and written down. Your god has been spectacularly successful in getting over only the tiniest sliver of humanity to escape the worst come Judgement Day.

    You think that people 2,000 years ago (and let's also remember that the books in the Bible were collated, edited and amended by human beings) have the answers for everything when they had no idea about DNA, atoms, gluons, muons, plate tectonics, blood groups, electricity, what caused lightning, radio signals, the speed of light, radiation, genetic mutation, evolution etc etc. On the other hand, we are expected to believe about people supposedly being turned to salt, water being turned into wine, Eve being created from Adam's rib, a talking donkey, a virgin birth, the existence of Nephilim, Enosh living over 900 years, demons being driven out of Mary Magdalen etc etc etc.

    They had no idea about the science that could result in motorised vehicles, aircarft, computerisation, space travel, MRI scans, x-rays, transplants, televison, nuclear power, photography, modern medicine, innoculation, chemotherapy, GPS and a lot else.

    They didn't even know the full extent of our own planet as regards all the continents that existed.

    It's very difficult to understand how intelligent people in the 21st century can believe in such myths...... but indictrination is an incredible thing.
    For 3,000 years ago read 300,000 years ago.

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