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Now that's what I call irrelevant speculation.Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Who he also appointed and who have been giving him bad advice and have been mismanaging his club for years. If he got rid of them and let people with a clue run his club his ownership wouldn't be such an issue.
Wonder if it’s true that Tan and Dalman have fallen out and Tan is attempting to run things again…? It ticks all the boxes for a proper shitshow this season to be fair.
Why? Based on what? If Tan "pulls the plug" there's nothing to stop another billionaire or a multi-billion dollar consortium taking over. Touble is, he won't pull the plug because he's already pissed away too much money and he hasn't got the business acumen to either turn it around or walk away. What kind of idiot keeps hiring incompetent managers, giving them money to spend on players only to get absolutely buggar all in return? We are going to be relegated and it's been a long time coming. And it's all Tan's doing.
There is abundant evidence that shows Tan to be a crap owner… on many levels.
We wouldn't be in this shit storm of a mess if Tan wasn't here.
I don't believe he was the saviour everyone is making him out to believe.
Hope he buggers off. He has ruined Cardiff and divided the fans like Scargill did with the miners
Yes , the red debacle is something I’m not sure the devoted fan base at the time will fully ever recover from. I went to just a handful of games in red and though I got a season ticket again after we switched back to blue the love affair has never been quite the same
I think it will take a new owner and some restoration of pride in our club on and off the field to be able to fully move on
The thing that has divided the fan base is the crap results.
Happens to every club.
Keep wearing your red scarf
If we were doing well , there wouldn’t be any protests ,otherwise we would have had them year on year since the rebrand.
Ultimately the average gate is around 18,000, but if we were going well it would be closer to 22,000. Fans are upset with performance levels in the main.
If we had won at Oxford there wouldn’t be any have been no booing at the end of the game.
Do you know any billionaires waiting to take over the club with a debt of Ł90m ?
Ultimately if we went down I’d still buy a family season ticket and a fair amount of merchandiseand so would a significant amount of current season ticket holders.
As Supermac said, 'results dear boy, results...'. I'll be there next season whatever, but this slow descent into apathy and mediocrity has to stop somewhere..If we were doing well , there wouldn’t be any protests ,otherwise we would have had them year on year since the rebrand.
Ultimately the average gate is around 18,000, but if we were going well it would be closer to 22,000. Fans are upset with performance levels in the main.
If we had won at Oxford there wouldn’t be any have been no booing at the end of the game.
Do you know any billionaires waiting to take over the club with a debt of Ł90m ?
Ultimately if we went down I’d still buy a family season ticket and a fair amount of merchandise
How much merchandise would you buy?If we were doing well , there wouldn’t be any protests ,otherwise we would have had them year on year since the rebrand.
Ultimately the average gate is around 18,000, but if we were going well it would be closer to 22,000. Fans are upset with performance levels in the main.
If we had won at Oxford there wouldn’t be any have been no booing at the end of the game.
Do you know any billionaires waiting to take over the club with a debt of Ł90m ?
Ultimately if we went down I’d still buy a family season ticket and a fair amount of merchandise
Percentage wise the less than 0.80% of our gross income , which is the same as most other fans.
Professional football is in such a different place from the Sam era. Who is the biggest club not to exist anymore? You have to dig pretty deep to find it. Someone will always want a stab at it.
They haven't now because Tan wants more than its worth but he is doing his damnedest to try to emulate Ashley in the premier league and just get by.
The 'VT your a wanker' and 'VT get out of our club' was a bit louder than i have heard in recent times. However the 'your not fit to wear the shirt' and 'sacked in the morning' chant was very much loader. And the toxic atmosphere at the end was very much directed at the shit show by the players and manager. The El ghazi bottling it when one on one with keeper was hard to take by many and proves the guy is not committed.The Tan song was very prevalent during our period in red . The away support was always more vocal than those at home .
I wouldn't be surprised if you hear it again very soon if we don't turn a corner .
I thought the "pass, move" chant was quite apt as we were all getting very frustrated with the lack of mobility and forward play.
I also felt sorry for the players , I guess the paying public would like to see the team climbing the table and the players leaving everything out on the pitch.
I have just seen Rizas comments after the game , if things dont work out as a manager I think he would make a decent reporter .Every game he gets it spot on where it gone wrong . Its a shame he cant seem to address the issues.
I could well be at Watford as well
Not sure what the answer is, but the board need to change their direction (if they have one) now, act and communicate now. Riza should be moved on now. Lack of leadership on and off the field is going to cost us championship football otherwise.
Spedger
The only protest I’ve seen in the last 10 years was for Bulut to get a contract from a few fans with mouths bigger than their brains.If we were doing well , there wouldn’t be any protests ,otherwise we would have had them year on year since the rebrand.
Ultimately the average gate is around 18,000, but if we were going well it would be closer to 22,000. Fans are upset with performance levels in the main.
If we had won at Oxford there wouldn’t be any have been no booing at the end of the game.
Do you know any billionaires waiting to take over the club with a debt of Ł90m ?
Ultimately if we went down I’d still buy a family season ticket and a fair amount of merchandise
Exactly. Weren’t too many moaning when the Championship trophy was being paraded around the field. The turning point was when we started losing regularly after being relegated.
As irrelevant as it as has been shitter than this when we were in the lower leagues decades ago.
It’s nearly 7 years ago, a long time in football terms, and we are seeing the club eroded because of the owner and his merry men’s total and utter football incompetence. Cheap hire after cheap hire to look after the millions we spend on the so called “assets” we waste tens of milllioms a year on. He deserves relegation.
I won’t be attending the protest. I’ve just stopped going as the apathy as well and truly set in. Judging by those actually attending these days I am not alone.
That’s bollocks, in the dungeon days we were shite for years and rock solid together as a fan base.
Far from alone, and at a guess many of those have been going since the dark days of division 4
As irrelevant as it as has been shitter than this when we were in the lower leagues decades ago.
It’s nearly 7 years ago, a long time in football terms, and we are seeing the club eroded because of the owner and his merry men’s total and utter football incompetence. Cheap hire after cheap hire to look after the millions we spend on the so called “assets” we waste tens of milllioms a year on. He deserves relegation.
I won’t be attending the protest. I’ve just stopped going as the apathy as well and truly set in. Judging by those actually attending these days I am not alone.
Yeah support the team not the regime….and all that bollocks, why? Do they deserve it?
Quite.
Riza needs to move on quickly as that is the only chance of us not going down. Aside from the fact that he just isn’t up to it, and absolutely everyone knows/knew this, we aren’t going to change all the player and/or the owner quickly enough to stop us going down.
So he needs to go ASAP, even if it is another temporary fix.
By the way, I have no hard feelings towards Riza. He just isn’t up to the job. So he needs to move on quickly for everyone’s sake, ideally by early Jan.
Theres a good 15 of us who have been watching Cardif since 80s/90s who go to watch Merthyr these days and only probably 4 or 5 still go down to the City now and again and one who still goes regularly to City away games.
That said I have agreed to go to the Jacks game with an old friend who hasn’t been well for quite a few years and has been nagging me to go with him to a game. Regretting it already.
All 2000 of us.
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