Defeats by five or more goals

[fugsyphil]

Excellent, thanks. That’s the man.

I would have only been ten years old watching that game, but I can remember how distinctive Woodward looked with his big mop of grey hair. Pretty sure he caused City all sorts of problems that day. I have a Sheffield Utd history book in the attic so I’ll check it out tomorrow and see if he was in the team for that game or whether I’m maybe thinking of another.

How weird. I was only six but remember that game and that guy as clear as day!!!

[splott parker]

Woodward was a player you automatically link with Sheffield United, stalwart for them for years.

[BINGE THINKING]

The result on Saturday cannot be changed, it's happened and the important thing now is how we respond to it. Having picked out the 6-0 at Preston to take a glass half empty view on the aftermath of a thrashing, it's only fair that I look into what happened after the other games listed in the OP and, hopefully, this will result in more of a glass half full interpretation - where possible, I'll look at the six games played after a heavty defeat as I reckon that's a large enough number to get a definite idea as to how we reacted.

City 1 Sheff Utd 6 12/77 - it's already been mentioned that we conceded six more at Bolton, who were toip of the table at the time, in our next match, we then drew 0-0 at home to Hull before winning two and losing two in the next four (despite the thrashing by Sheffield United, this was a season where we were strong at home and terrible away and through the second half of that season we tended to win at ninian Park and lose away).

Luton 7 City 1 9/78 - we were bottom pf the table at the time, but six games later we were up to 17th as we responded really well to what happened at Luton by winning four and drawing one of our next six games.

Brighton 5 City 0 12/78 - strange one this, a cold, snowy winter meant that we didn't play our next home league game until the end of February. The two league games we were able to play between Boxing Day and our next home match included anpther 5-0 loss, at Cambridge and a 0-0 draw, but then when the weather relented and fixtures returned to normal, we won four on the trot!

Cambridge 5 City 0 1/79
The four matches we played after this were all won (see above) and they were followed by a draw and a defeat.

Bolton 5 City 0 3/86
I need say no more than Durban was our manager at the time, so you know how things went after this loss - a win, a draw and four losses!

Port Vale 6 City 1 9/88
Things were somewhat complicated by the fact that we were playing in Europe that year and winning games in that competition, but there wasn't a win in our next six league games after Port Vale, but there were four draws.

City 0 Maidstone 5 1/92
A notorious defeat, but we responded by winning five and drawing one of the next six league games.

Preston 5 City 0 1/96
The season when we finished 22nd in Division 4 - the next six games saw us win two, draw one and lose three which was probably a bit better than par for that season.

Preston 6 City 0 4/09 - already covered, we drew one and lost three of the remaining league games for that season. For what it's worth, we won one and drew one in our first two matches of the following season.

City 0 Man C 5 9/18 - part of a very testing set of fixtures to start that season, we won two and lost four in the next six games.

QPR 6 City 1 1/20 - a positive response, three wins and three draws.

Sheff W 5 City 0 4/21 - around the time it started to go wrong for Mick McCarthy, but we ended that season with two wins and four draws.

Burnley 5 City 0 8/24 - followed it up with a creditable draw at Swansea, but this was part of our poorest start to a season ever, so the next four games were lost before we managed a first win of the campaign in the next one.

So, the thirteen matches covered saw us win more than we lost in the next six games on six occasions and lose more than we won seven times. Given that it's more likely for struggling sides to be beaten by five or more in games, I'd say those figures give reason for hope that our loss at Leeds will not be the disaster for our season that the 6-0 at Preston was.

Strangely in the first 12 of those fixtures we had won or went on to win 7 of the return fixtures during that season. Maybe our chances against Burnley on March 1st are better than we think.

[Steve the Tea]

A few more hammerings:

Jan 1 1926 ... Sheff Utd 11 - 2 Cardiff City
Oct 1 1927 ... Huddersfield 8 - 2 Cardiff City
Sept 3 1955 ... Cardiff City 2 - 9 Wolves
May 7 1966 ... Preston 9 - 0 Cardiff City

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[Enoch Mort]

Woodward was a player you automatically link with Sheffield United, stalwart for them for years.

He was a fine player playing over 500 times for them at a time when Tony Currie was grabbing all the headlines. As you say, if you are of a certain age his is a name you automatically associate with Sheffield United along with Len Badger and keeper Alan Hodgkinson

[dandywarhol]

Dynamo, Moscow, beats Cardiff City 10-1.

[splott parker]

I’m going to chuck in Thames Utd for balance

[the other bob wilson]

Woodward was a player you automatically link with Sheffield United, stalwart for them for years.

Hands up who else remembers him before he went grey?

[splott parker]

He was a fine player playing over 500 times for them at a time when Tony Currie was grabbing all the headlines. As you say, if you are of a certain age his is a name you automatically associate with Sheffield United along with Len Badger and keeper Alan Hodgkinson

We were chatting along the lines of this on the bus on Saturday. How, apart from some obvious exceptions, it’s a struggle to know who’s who with clubs. Players stayed with clubs it seemed years ago and if you throw a name at someone of a certain age, the name of his club will automatically follow. Hunt-Liverpool, Blanchflower-Spurs, Moore-West Ham, Boyce-West Ham, Stringfellow-Leicester, Labone-Everton, even Jim Standen got a mention for two clubs- West Ham & Worcestershire, 1964, Cup Winners medal, County Championship winners medal & top of the bowling averages, hard to imagine that now.

[the other bob wilson]

A few more hammerings:

Jan 1 1926 ... Sheff Utd 11 - 2 Cardiff City
Oct 1 1927 ... Huddersfield 8 - 2 Cardiff City
Sept 3 1955 ... Cardiff City 2 - 9 Wolves
May 7 1966 ... Preston 9 - 0 Cardiff City

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In line with Binge Thinking’s earlier post, we gained revenge for two of those hammerings -Huddersfield were beaten 4-0 in the reverse fixture and, as my parents told me on, much, more than one occasion, we went to WolvEs and beat them 2-0 a few months later.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I’m going to chuck in Thames Utd for balance

Wonder if our fans chanted "Are you Bon Accord in disguise"?

[Eric the Half a Bee]

In line with Binge Thinking’s earlier post, we gained revenge for two of those hammerings -Huddersfield were beaten 4-0 in the reverse fixture and, as my parents told me on, much, more than one occasion, we went to WolvEs and beat them 2-0 a few months later.

While it's not us, I remember Liverpool beating Crystal Palace 9-0 at Anfield in the 1989/90 season, then losing a very memorable FA cup semi final to them after extra time the same season.

[splott parker]

Wonder if our fans chanted "Are you Bon Accord in disguise"?

Or Hyde (the English version)

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Or Hyde (the English version)

Hyde in disguise

[Lord Worcester]

8 sadly!

[Steve the Tea]

In line with Binge Thinking’s earlier post, we gained revenge for two of those hammerings -Huddersfield were beaten 4-0 in the reverse fixture and, as my parents told me on, much, more than one occasion, we went to WolvEs and beat them 2-0 a few months later.

Bob, Could you imagine what some of the return games following these hammering would have been like when they were played on successive weeks?

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[The Lone Gunman]

Hope the “significant medical condition” is treatable and you can make a full recovery from it Dave.

Thanks Paul. Unfortunately, it’s prostate cancer. It was initially detected during a series of blood tests and scans for an unrelated and so far undiagnosed condition I’ve been struggling with since August. The guidance from the staff at the hospital has been excellent from day one, so the biopsy results weren't a great shock when they arrived a couple of weeks ago, but they weren’t exactly the best way to start 2025 either.

[The Lone Gunman]

Yes. Sometimes teams have a bad day at the office. We had a woeful one even by some of the crap standards we've shown over the last few seasons, but it won't be season defining, the first sign of the apocalypse etc.

While Saturday’s result won’t define the season, it shouldn’t be regarded as in any way insignificant either. After all, the facts are that it was Cardiff City’s heaviest defeat since May 1966 and Leeds United’s biggest victory since March 1972. Considering some of the dreadful sides City have fielded during the intervening years and some of the powerful teams Leeds have had at their disposal during that time, the magnitude of this defeat shouldn’t be underestimated.

Hopefully, the manager, his staff and his players are ashamed of what happened at Elland Road and will do everything within their powers to ensure nothing similar happens again. This squad has a soft underbelly that has been exposed on several occasions this season. Saturday’s woeful performance should be a reality check for everyone involved, and also for any fans who were beginning to believe the current side is better than it actually is.

[splott parker]

Thanks Paul. Unfortunately, it’s prostate cancer. It was initially detected during a series of blood tests and scans for an unrelated and so far undiagnosed condition I’ve been struggling with since August. The guidance from the staff at the hospital has been excellent from day one, so the biopsy results weren't a great shock when they arrived a couple of weeks ago, but they weren’t exactly the best way to start 2025 either.

All the best Dave, I’m sure you can beat this, battle on mate

[The Lone Gunman]

All the best Dave, I’m sure you can beat this, battle on mate

Cheers Steve. Thankfully, I'm not considered to be in any immediate danger. The consultant has determined that, at this stage, the risks associated with surgery or radiotherapy to eradicate the cancer are greater than the threat posed by the cancer itself, so I've now entered a period of what is described as active surveillance (regular blood tests and scans, etc). It's a bit scary, but in reality it's not too bad as things stand, and the staff at the hospital have been brilliant.

[jeepster]

Cheers Steve. Thankfully, I'm not considered to be in any immediate danger. The consultant has determined that, at this stage, the risks associated with surgery or radiotherapy to eradicate the cancer are greater than the threat posed by the cancer itself, so I've now entered a period of what is described as active surveillance (regular blood tests and scans, etc). It's a bit scary, but in reality it's not too bad as things stand, and the staff at the hospital have been brilliant.

Hope you stay well.

[the other bob wilson]

Cheers Steve. Thankfully, I'm not considered to be in any immediate danger. The consultant has determined that, at this stage, the risks associated with surgery or radiotherapy to eradicate the cancer are greater than the threat posed by the cancer itself, so I've now entered a period of what is described as active surveillance (regular blood tests and scans, etc). It's a bit scary, but in reality it's not too bad as things stand, and the staff at the hospital have been brilliant.

When I had my prostate scare eleven years ago. I got to hear of several men in a similar situation to yours, some had been in that active surveillance phase for ten years and more - I got to talk with someone at a City game at one stage who’d been going back and forth to hospital for checks for over twenty years.

Given what you’ve been through, I’m sure you will have heard the line that plenty of men will die with prostate cancer, but not of it - their cancers develop so slowly that they live well into old age and something else is responsible for their death. The other good thing is that you’re in the system now and so if there is any deterioration in your condition, it will be detected early.

All the best Dave, sounds like you can get back to something like normality now.

[Steve the Tea]

Thanks Paul. Unfortunately, it’s prostate cancer. It was initially detected during a series of blood tests and scans for an unrelated and so far undiagnosed condition I’ve been struggling with since August. The guidance from the staff at the hospital has been excellent from day one, so the biopsy results weren't a great shock when they arrived a couple of weeks ago, but they weren’t exactly the best way to start 2025 either.

It is so important for men to have regular PSA blood tests that check the prostate. I was talking to a health official recently who contrasted the amount of money spent on breast cancer in women and the little on prostate cancer in men.

To all blokes who post on this site if you haven't had a PSA blood test go to your doctor's surgery NOW and book in for one. It's also important to have them regularly.

Best wishes for the future, Dave. Keep looking up.

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[The Lone Gunman]

All the best Dave, sounds like you can get back to something like normality now.

Thanks Paul, much appreciated. Everything you've said about the prostate cancer issue ties in with the advice I've been given and I know a couple of people in similar situations, so I'm reasonably relaxed about it. And as I said, the hospital staff have been brilliant.

As for getting back to normality, I wish... I originally went to the GP in late-August with severe shoulder pain which quickly spread to the arms and wrists. We're now almost six months down the line and I've had 12 sets of blood tests, two sets of x-rays, a CT scan, and MRI scan, a colonoscopy and a biopsy. Prostate cancer has been detected, but the medical teams are still none the wiser as regards the cause of the shoulder pain or the varying levels of inflammation and other anomalies that are showing up in my blood (yet more blood tests are scheduled for Monday morning). Thankfully, the pain is now greatly reduced by comparison to how it was back in September and October, but the shoulders and wrists are still nowhere near right.

It's been quite a journey. I must be the only guy in South Wales who has gone to his doctor with shoulder pain and ended up with a prostate biopsy and a camera up his butt.

[dandywarhol]

Thanks Paul, much appreciated. Everything you've said about the prostate cancer issue ties in with the advice I've been given and I know a couple of people in similar situations, so I'm reasonably relaxed about it. And as I said, the hospital staff have been brilliant.

As for getting back to normality, I wish... I originally went to the GP in late-August with severe shoulder pain which quickly spread to the arms and wrists. We're now almost six months down the line and I've had 12 sets of blood tests, two sets of x-rays, a CT scan, and MRI scan, a colonoscopy and a biopsy. Prostate cancer has been detected, but the medical teams are still none the wiser as regards the cause of the shoulder pain or the varying levels of inflammation and other anomalies that are showing up in my blood (yet more blood tests are scheduled for Monday morning). Thankfully, the pain is now greatly reduced by comparison to how it was back in September and October, but the shoulders and wrists are still nowhere near right.

It's been quite a journey. I must be the only guy in South Wales who has gone to his doctor with shoulder pain and ended up with a prostate biopsy and a camera up his butt.

I hope your recovery continues.I went to the doctors recently thinking I had prostrate problems.All clear but bloods showed signs of liver disease.My doctor said it's surprising how many illnesses are found out by chance.